LOL. So once again, treasonous remarks are fine as long as they are about approved subjects such as abortion or taxes. But never, never, ever call the country to account for unjust wars or racism. And even worse don't call the Republican Party - especially the elite families to account for their divisive strategies. My god, if they changed, how would they organize their base?

Let's see now... tirades urging the overthrow of the government are fine as long as they don't contain profanity. O'k. Shaeffer was willing to go further than merely asking God to damn America, he preached the use of force to tear down the state if "reconstruction" did not work. Rev. Wright is mild in comparison. But...

LOL. So once again, treasonous remarks are fine as long as they are about approved subjects such as abortion or taxes. But never, never, ever call the country to account for unjust wars or racism. And even worse don't call the Republican Party - especially the elite families to account for their divisive strategies. My god, if they changed, how would they organize their base?

Let's see now... tirades urging the overthrow of the government are fine as long as they don't contain profanity. O'k. Shaeffer was willing to go further than merely asking God to damn America, he preached the use of force to tear down the state if "reconstruction" did not work. Rev. Wright is mild in comparison. But of course Shaeffer is fine because his language is sanitized. Or might there be another reason?

Force, as used in this book, means compulsion or constraint exerted upon a person (or persons) or on an entity such as the state. When discussing force it is important to keep an axiom in mind: always before protest or force is used, we must work for reconstruction. In other words, we should attempt to correct and rebuild society before we advocate tearing it down or disrupting it. - Frank Schaeffer, A Christian Manfiesto

Re: Obama's Grandmother - Are you part black? Do you have white relatives who can kiss you on the check and then act scared when someone black walks by or they use the "N" word? If that isn't you, then it's understandable why you'd join the "threw grandma under the bus" chorus. If you can't relate, then you should be thankful that what Obama described isn't a part of your American Experience.

This is the problem when so-called "religious leaders" are whispering into the ears of those who may be in charge of instilling and upholding the "WILL OF THE PEOPLE" or rather, as we now have it in America, "running the government corporation". It's all bad! I don't care if it's Falwell, Robertson, etc. influencing Bush and friends or this Rev. Wright influencing Obama, I object to the weight they carry in influence with them, and it's obvious that it does, politically, and not just personally. I am not objecting to candidates following a religion or having faith mind you. Just that your "spiritual advisers" (leaders) should not be your political advisers, and the lines have been blurred. I...

This is the problem when so-called "religious leaders" are whispering into the ears of those who may be in charge of instilling and upholding the "WILL OF THE PEOPLE" or rather, as we now have it in America, "running the government corporation". It's all bad! I don't care if it's Falwell, Robertson, etc. influencing Bush and friends or this Rev. Wright influencing Obama, I object to the weight they carry in influence with them, and it's obvious that it does, politically, and not just personally. I am not objecting to candidates following a religion or having faith mind you. Just that your "spiritual advisers" (leaders) should not be your political advisers, and the lines have been blurred. It was worrisome and unacceptable to me with Bush and the evangelical influence to his politics and it is objectionable to me for Obama and his church's influence, politically.

I hate to keep laughing at you but, you just seem so out of touch with the reality of millions of people in the United States. Where your born there? If so, that's just incredible. And "there's the rub" for you, the obstacle you must overcome - here's a little Mike Huckabee to get you started:

HUCKABEE: As easy as it is for those of us who are white to look back and say that's a terrible statement. I grew up in a very segregated south and I think you have to cut some slack, and I'm going to be probably the only conservative in America whose gonna say something like this but I'm just gonna tell you, we got to cut some slack to people who grew up being called names, being told you have to s...

I hate to keep laughing at you but, you just seem so out of touch with the reality of millions of people in the United States. Where your born there? If so, that's just incredible. And "there's the rub" for you, the obstacle you must overcome - here's a little Mike Huckabee to get you started:

HUCKABEE: As easy as it is for those of us who are white to look back and say that's a terrible statement. I grew up in a very segregated south and I think you have to cut some slack, and I'm going to be probably the only conservative in America whose gonna say something like this but I'm just gonna tell you, we got to cut some slack to people who grew up being called names, being told you have to sit in the balcony when you go to the movie, you have to go to back door to enter their restaurant, and you can't sit out there with everyone else, there's a seperate waiting room in the doctor's office. Here's where you sit on the bus and you know what, sometimes people do have a chip on their shoulder and resentment and you just have to say ...

MSNBC COMMENTATOR: It's a true experince ...

HUCKABEE: ... I probably would too, I probably would too and in fact I may have had more of a chip on my shoulder had it been me.

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