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5-14-2007 6:47 PM
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5-14-2007 7:18 PM
The REAL Napster
Thanks for posting this, adds some insight as to what all the squabbling is about, doesn't it?
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5-14-2007 7:48 PM
jklugman
I wonder when DAFKA will support the establishment of nation-states for the Navajo, Cherokee, Sioux, etc. in North America with proper boundaries and occupied lands, and which will send out settlers who will live on land stolen from Europeans.
5-14-2007 8:54 PM
The REAL Napster
The Native American Indians lost their battles years ago. They know this and so does the rest of the world. Sad, but true.
5-14-2007 9:14 PM
jklugman
But the ancient Israeli kingdom--the one that DAFKA uses to deny any Palestinian claim to land--was conquered 2,700 years ago. So you could also say "The Israelites lost their battles thousands of years ago. They know this and so does the rest of the world. Sad, but true."
5-15-2007 1:37 AM
The REAL Napster
Then why are the Jews still there? The American Indian tribes were displaced and scattered to the four winds, ending up on reservations. Seems that if the outcome 2,700 years ago was as you suggest for the Jews, then they would not still be living in the same place...but they are.
5-15-2007 7:18 AM
fudzzz
Get your information from an unbiased source next time please. Visit the website and you'll see what I mean. That's all I have to say.
5-15-2007 8:53 AM
jklugman
It's misleading to say that Jews are "still" in Israel, implying that their presence has being a continuation from the biblical era. In fact, most Jews in Israel are either foreign-born or descendents of Jews who emigrated in the 19th and 20th centuries.

Native Americans really are "still here" though.
6-29-2008 6:07 PM
RaiseClip
Let us consider how the Jews came to occupy Palestine (Canaan) in the first place and we shall see that they were stealing, mass-murdering, raping and enslaving back then also:

Deuteronomy
20:10 When you approach a city to wage war against it, offer it terms of peace. 20:11 If it accepts your terms and submits to you, all the people found in it will become your slaves. 20:12 If it does not accept terms of peace but makes war with you, then you are to lay siege to it. 20:13 The LORD your God will deliver it over to you and you must kill every single male by the sword. 20:14 However, the women, little children, cattle, and anything else in the city – all its plunder – you may[b]...
6-29-2008 9:43 PM
jklugman
Let us consider how the Jews came to occupy Palestine (Canaan) in the first place and we shall see that they were stealing, mass-murdering, raping and enslaving back then also
RaiseClip, your references to "the Jews" are nonsensical and are reminiscent of dark chapters in European history. If you want to make sure you don't change anyone's mind, by all means continue in this vein.
6-30-2008 4:40 PM
RaiseClip
... not half as nonsensical as quotes and ideology of the chosen.

Truth is truth no matter what you or a thousand people say to the contrary.
12-21-2008 10:21 AM
rvnurse2b
The land was given to Israel. God's promise is tied to the land. Muslims trace their history back to to Abraham but believe that Ishmael, and not Isaac was the child of promise, entitling them to take it.
Israel ceased to be a nation for almost 2,000 years- a nation with Land that is...but following Hitler's reign of terror, the Jews were given a parcel of land- basically a swamp that no one wanted- and became a nation on their own land again. This is a promise and a sign of the end times that has been fulfilled.
aside from all that- I don't think they should be fighting in the way that they have been. Peace would be great- but they are not willing to give up the promise for peace that is at...
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