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BartendingBearfollowshare
10-15-2008 10:26 AM
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pkronfield makes racist remarks here on Clipmarks. Racism is wrong on the street and wrong here, too. You're sick, pkronfield.
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10-15-2008 10:59 AM
Oortcloud
It's the last stand of a dying campaign. Fear has been shown to work in the past. Hopefully people are actually getting smart enough to recognize those kinds of tactics.
10-15-2008 11:06 AM
ratilfar
The last defense of a scoundrel: "I know you are, but what am I?"

The fact that he can see it or chooses to ignore his own racism is sad indeed.
10-15-2008 1:31 PM
BobbyRutan
What a shame how short our lives are and how slowly our nation changes.

It was only about 5 to 6 years ago that a black man could be trusted to be the head coach of an NFL football team.

Now 2 of them have taken their teams to the Super Bowl.

How remarkable that in 3 weeks we might actually have a black President.

Then too people will (or should in the case of PKronfield) that the African-American is not the boogey monster.
10-15-2008 2:34 PM
darkduskx
The only ones who will benefit will be blacks and illegals
He's also saying Obama is an enemy of Israel.

http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/C8F69168-F961-44D6-91F2-8AF16BD7C88C/

Old MacDonald had a fear,

Ee i ee i oh!

And on that fear he hated some blacks,

Ee i ee i oh!

With an illegal here,

And an muslim there
10-15-2008 4:37 PM
ColoradoRight
So you can look into the soul of a person who you don't even know and be able to determine their ultimate motivations and thoughts?

Eeek. He said the word white. Or was the racism because he said the word illegal. The race card comes out FROM DEMOCRATS. Always. Its because their main motivation is to divide people into groups based on the pigment color of their skin, the shape of their genitals, the way they want to have sex and make them all victims.

Because victims can be exploited for money and votes. So if a black man is elected president does that mean you won't use race any more? Will America have proven their repentance and acceptance? Of course not. Otherwise how would tho...
10-15-2008 5:21 PM
BartendingBear
I post Palin based clips because the woman is a danger to the society we live in, and a cruel joke on the American public, to say nothing of a fool in general for believing she is participating in her own destiny when that is actually in the hands of those whose machine she has become a part of.

Compete on ideas? When someone such as you, CR, is the opponent there is no need for competition, you always lose by your own hand...

First, you presume I am a Democrat, which I am not. I am without party affiliation and am not and have not been an active Obama supporter. My position counter to the typical GOP understanding does not make me one, but I'm confident that's not something you can wrap y...
10-15-2008 8:37 PM
spirithiker
Bravo, bear. Well said.
10-16-2008 8:28 AM
prin1
amen, bear! as it always does in presidential election, it comes down to the lesser of two evils. i will vote because i refuse to let them take that away from me. i refuse to be complacent and accept what is put out there for me to swallow. i will vote and i will be comfortable with my vote but that doesn't mean I will willingly swallow.
10-16-2008 9:09 AM
lifecyce1898
He's been spouting hate here for some time!
Good clip!
10-16-2008 9:14 AM
chestnut501
BARTENDING DEAR, So you're going to take it a step farther...

But since you bring this up......and I'm not blaming anyone more than the other, What happens here can happen in the "Real" streets in the "Real" world. Not every ya hoo has a computer to take their frustrations out on. So lets ALL try real hard to keep our cool. Last thing we need in this country is a freekin civil war, so anything anyone starts can get out of hand and escalate into something I want to believe nobody wants. Remember we are all Americans FIRST. "United we stand, Divided we fall" Remember what is important to you....your family, your children...we all have so much too lose if we let our anger get the best of us.


10-16-2008 10:06 AM
tabsey
Good clipping Bear.
10-16-2008 3:30 PM
sparlingphoto
Barack Hussein Obama would not even be the Democrat nominee if he weren't black...that's not racist, just a fact. I could care less whether he is black or not. Are there som that won't vote for because of his skin color? Sure, but far more will vote for him BECAUSE of his skin color. I believe it was MLK who said to judge someone by the content of their character, not the color of their skin. Obama's character is extremely suspect based on his past associations and the fact that he lies about them until they become political liabilities. BTW, BTB...the McSame line is so juvenille that it totally dilutes your messages.
10-16-2008 3:31 PM
sparlingphoto
Oh, I forgot...LUNACY POP!
10-16-2008 4:23 PM
Aqualung1000
Lets see, he is racist because he said the word black. Look at this statement. Use some logic, there is no (zero) racism inherant in using words like black or white, there was no racist meaning behind it. He was referring to a people (plural)!
10-16-2008 4:39 PM
ratilfar
The only ones who will benefit will be blacks and illegals.
Yeah... reading comprehension FAIL!
10-16-2008 7:41 PM
rvnurse2b
I'm not going to chose to deny Barak my vote because he is black-
on the contrary, I think it would be cool to have a black pres-
but I don't like Obama or what he is standing for, and I love the things that he is standing against.
why is it that someone can't just be the color they are and not play the race card when things don't go their way?
It perpetuates the prejudices.
10-16-2008 10:52 PM
BobbyRutan
We don't live in a prejudice free world, or a world free from misogyny

Why should women keep fighting for equal pay for equal work instead of admitting that they are inferior workers?
10-16-2008 11:31 PM
monstersmom
sparlingphoto: if you didn't care whether he was black or not you wouldn't be trying so hard to make a point out of it.
McCain and Palin have just as many, if not way more and way more close, suspect affiliations than Obama. they are just crying louder about his while he is consistenly sticking to the issues of the campaign. I mean really? McCain is married to a drug addict who stole from her own charity and Palin's husband may have problems getting a security clearance because of his past associations with the AIP. Not to mention the fact that bringing up character when defending McCain is not the smartest move. He had an adulterous affair, one word - Keating, voted with Bush over 90% of t...
10-17-2008 12:48 AM
BartendingBear
Monstermom - you rock girl.
10-17-2008 1:36 AM
Oortcloud
Wait a minute ... he's black?
10-17-2008 3:15 PM
citizenbfk
ColoradoWrong and others keep pointing to the fact he's black.

He's actually half-white.

Fortunately, from the very start of the primaries a long time ago, Democratic voters in a state as white as Iowa (2% black) don't seem to consider it an issue.

ColoradoWrong seems to be on some twisted religious trip about Holy One's and Messiahs and now, here, American "repentance." (and guilt?).

I don't think people who have never had any slaves should feel the need to "repent," for their father's sins.

I know, certainly, since my family didn't come over to America until the 1930's, I don't feel the need to repent for America's past practice of slavery.

All nation's, BTW, have had some form of sl...
10-19-2008 12:30 PM
lifecyce1898
How can people that disavow logic and reason, pull it out and abuse it when the world is not functioning the way they want it to?
10-19-2008 9:05 PM
rvnurse2b
Bobyrutan
what I meant about pulling the race card is this-

People sometimes throw out an accusation of racially/sexually based motives when there was no thought from the other party about race whatsoever. When I have witnessed it, it is usually coming from someone who is A) looking to pick a fight,B) hoping to sue and get money, or C) cover up their bad behavior or laziness- ie- not legit.
There are legitimate cases, and I don't mean to downplay those, what I am talking about is that saying "it's only because I'm______ that you are doing this to me!". seems to be like an escape hatch with a lot of people today... And there are people who are so reluctant to let go of the hurt that they ...
10-20-2008 12:59 PM
citizenbfk
I re-read these posts and the original clip.

@ pkronfield says: "The only ones who will benefit will be blacks and illegals."

Then he asks:

@ pkronfield says: "What racism?"

Maybe we could just say pkronfield is clueless but unfortunately this clear effort to divide people along racial lines is dangerous.

To refute the nonsense clearly (if it has not yet been done so)'

1. Obama's plans will not just benefit blacks and illegals.

2. Thinking that is a racist comment.

3. If white Americans thought that, saw it that way, they would not be voting for him, obviously.

4. Millions of white Americas are voting for him.

Also, good point @rvnurse2b -- Obama has not made one single complaint...
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