I respectfully disagree, that is not enough. The election was about more than that and it was about more than him. Yes there will be disappointments and I agree that he can't possibly live up to all expectations, but that isn't the point either. The point is the choice we made. I believe that many people in the US and around the world were convinced that we had screwed things up so badly that we were on some path of destruction that could not be stayed. By making the choice to support this man at this time we've reassured ourselves that we can change and we can work and fight for a better future for ourselves and our children. It is not enough now to sit back and expect him to solve it all f...

I respectfully disagree, that is not enough. The election was about more than that and it was about more than him. Yes there will be disappointments and I agree that he can't possibly live up to all expectations, but that isn't the point either. The point is the choice we made. I believe that many people in the US and around the world were convinced that we had screwed things up so badly that we were on some path of destruction that could not be stayed. By making the choice to support this man at this time we've reassured ourselves that we can change and we can work and fight for a better future for ourselves and our children. It is not enough now to sit back and expect him to solve it all for us. We are the ones that need to stand up and do this work now and the world should be elated at this message from the people of the US - we are still here, we still have a conscience, we can still be hopeful and we do care about the rest of the world and our place in it. This article trivializes that message and ignores what even Obama himself has said many times - it is not about him, it's about all of us.

Lazy black people

Yuck. Yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck.

in the past they have been treated badly or looked over due to the colour of there skin

I would consider 300 years of slavery, segregation, deliberate destruction of families and lynching something more than "bad treatment".

I would consider the US Constitution at one time counting blacks as 3/5 of a human being something more than being "looked over".

get off there lazyasses and get a job!

In the US, a white person with a criminal record is more likely to get a job than a black person with a clean record. In the US, a white person lacking a high school diploma is more likely...

Lazy black people

Yuck. Yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck.

in the past they have been treated badly or looked over due to the colour of there skin

I would consider 300 years of slavery, segregation, deliberate destruction of families and lynching something more than "bad treatment".

I would consider the US Constitution at one time counting blacks as 3/5 of a human being something more than being "looked over".

get off there lazyasses and get a job!

In the US, a white person with a criminal record is more likely to get a job than a black person with a clean record. In the US, a white person lacking a high school diploma is more likely to get a job than a black person with one. In the US, a white person is 10 times more likely to get a call back for an interview than a black person.

With all due respect, STFU.

Touche', and dont worry about the STFU. My feelings are not easily bruised, but thanks for the concern.

Evidently its my turn to respond. Two options presents itself, either apologise for making an uneducated comment (brimstone you must remember to think before you talk) or further give reason why i said what i said. Obviously i choose the latter.

Definition lazy: disinclined to work.

My comment pointed out that those people that are disinclined to work should no longer use the race card, or slavery (which was abolished in 1865, that is +/- 6 generations ago) as an excuse not to work or be productive and depend on the state to provide welfare. The new elected president has proven t...

Touche', and dont worry about the STFU. My feelings are not easily bruised, but thanks for the concern.

Evidently its my turn to respond. Two options presents itself, either apologise for making an uneducated comment (brimstone you must remember to think before you talk) or further give reason why i said what i said. Obviously i choose the latter.

Definition lazy: disinclined to work.

My comment pointed out that those people that are disinclined to work should no longer use the race card, or slavery (which was abolished in 1865, that is +/- 6 generations ago) as an excuse not to work or be productive and depend on the state to provide welfare. The new elected president has proven that the American Dream is a truth and that any person is capable of achieving their dream.

I'm tired of seeing people in a country that has so much to offer them, complain so much, and not useing whats in front of them.

Our lives are determined by the choices we make. Like i chose to write that comment fully knowing that i might get a reaction like you displayed, but i was ready for the consequences of my choice. And would not blame anybody for the outcome but myself.

Sure life has dealt blacks a bad hand. But if you get your two's and three's in a row you potentially have a winning hand. (note poker reference)

I think, its about time that black people stopped blaming the system, how much longer will it be tolerated?

In reality, slavery in the US South didn't really end until 1945. Now called "neo-slavery", black men convicted for crimes such as vagrancy (read: being unemployed) were "loaned" from the prison yard to the factory floor to work off their "debt to society". It is estimated that more than 5 million black men were held in servitude from 1865-1945.

The Great Migration of southern blacks to the North in the 1950s offered no promised land. Blacks were ghettoized, prevented from settling in white neighborhoods by racial redlining and [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bl...

In reality, slavery in the US South didn't really end until 1945. Now called "neo-slavery", black men convicted for crimes such as vagrancy (read: being unemployed) were "loaned" from the prison yard to the factory floor to work off their "debt to society". It is estimated that more than 5 million black men were held in servitude from 1865-1945.

The Great Migration of southern blacks to the North in the 1950s offered no promised land. Blacks were ghettoized, prevented from settling in white neighborhoods by racial redlining and block busting.

Today, just look at statistics that show the reality of being black in America; infant mortality rates, for example, reflect those of 3rd world countries.

As to blaming the system, well, the system has failed blacks again and again - from the failure of public schools to racial profiling and police brutality. It was here in Chicago that a police commander named Jon Burge became infamous for torturing black men into confessions, dozens of whom ended up on Death Row until exonerated and released. I admit to not knowing one black person who trusts the police.

Now, I have seen attitudes in the black community that can be troubling. There is much self-loathing (internalization of white racism) that pervades the community, from my black female friends denying the Afro to brothers keeping a close shave; to adults encouraging children to pick up a basketball instead of a book and praising light-skinned newborns as more beautiful than dark-skinned babies.

There are no easy answers, Brimstone, but I'm glad we're having this conversation.

@dulios - I appreciate your comprehensive and compassionate thinking.

I have a had time thinking Brimstone is black. Is that what he said: Did Brimestone say he was black?

And he thinks "self loathing is not experienced by one particular racial group but by the majority of people."

I'm glad he's decided not to say anymore. I think he's a phony with some other agenda.

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dulios
I'll add that blacks (Afro-Americans) also were severely hindered in voting rights until 1965.

They also talk on ongoing discrimination -- with insults like Brimestones to go along with it: Denied jobs or good jobs and they get called lazy for not working.

Denied decent or quality education and then painted as ...

@dulios - I appreciate your comprehensive and compassionate thinking.

I have a had time thinking Brimstone is black. Is that what he said: Did Brimestone say he was black?

And he thinks "self loathing is not experienced by one particular racial group but by the majority of people."

I'm glad he's decided not to say anymore. I think he's a phony with some other agenda.

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dulios
I'll add that blacks (Afro-Americans) also were severely hindered in voting rights until 1965.

They also talk on ongoing discrimination -- with insults like Brimestones to go along with it: Denied jobs or good jobs and they get called lazy for not working.

Denied decent or quality education and then painted as criminals only interested in violence and crime.

The KEY stat for those in jail is not race (which is heavily blacks in jail) but is: education (the less education the more chances of being in jail) and cash (the less cash you have the more chance of going to jail).

RICH folks with EDUCATION do better at staying out of jail.

A terrible stat is that we spend three times as much to keep a person in jail as would be spent to put that person through college or trade school (if they wanted it).