 masbury says: Secret memo alleged from US Embassy to head of CIA; military revolt possible I'm glad you said 'alleged'. I think the US might arouse tens of thousands of protesters who would oppose constitutional changes. The guy is a self-appointed dictator who is ruining the economy of Venezuela. The people can't even buy milk but there's millions of dollars going somewhere from their oil revenues. He wants to allow himself to run for President every year for the rest of his life...with a firm grasp over the electoral process. Right. See my clipmark too that details the blueprint, entitled "Operation Pliers". Jetfla, I'd encourage you to follow the link to the article and read for yourself the constitutional amendments that are proposed. While I do not favor long terms for politicians, many of the amendments look like real gains for the poor people of Venezuela. As you know, the CIA has taken down many democracies in the world, usually not because their were threats, but because they restricted US access to their markets. While Iran was the first after WW2, these Central and South American nations have been the ones most frequently overthrown. Whatever one thinks of Chavez, he would be very foolish not to be suspicious of the USA. Self-determination in Central and South America has been prohi... The CIA should, of course, stay out of their business. But the Left is stupid to hitch it's wagon to Chavez who will turn out as yet another incarnation of Mugabe. He is an egoist, messianic fool who will bring ruin in his bid to be the modern day Bolivar. Not that I have an opinion. One doesn't have to hitch one's wagon to anything if the interest is in fair play. I hope the CIA keep their sticky beaks out of Venezuela's business. I'd sympathise with Chavez but for one thing -- he publicly supported Mugabe, and many of his sympathizers also publicly support Mugabe. And anyone who knows what is going on in Zimbabwe and supports Mugabe is no friend of democracy. No question about it, the people the CIA gets interested in are usually not pure as the driven snow. But guys like Chavez get a lot of credibility from contrasting themselves with the USA's outlaw tactics. We would never have heard of Ahmadinejad, for instance, or had the Iran hostage crisis, had not the CIA taken down the Iranian government in '53. These things always bite back, one way or another. And even if they didn't, it wouldn't be right. I'd encourage you to follow the link to the article and read for yourself the constitutional amendments that are proposed. While I do not favor long terms for politicians, many of the amendments look like real gains for the poor people of Venezuela.The essence of fair play as usual, Masbury. What is the point of some people reading something to then see only what they choose. Blind faith?! More powerful than their conscious? You would certainly need some spiritual 'gift' to be able to blindly believe in Bush. What evidence do they need to awaken from their stupor? All the evidence is that Chavez wants a fair distribution of Venezuela's wealth. All the evidence is that Bus... Congratulations to Venezuela for what appears to have been a fair election. We in the States may have a few things to learn from Venezuela's. An aside, constitutional change should require more than a simple majority in my opinion. We really have to develop our pro-activity in the matter of media's truth. Even traditionaly leftist medias in france (like : Liberation) describes Chavez as some sort of autocratic son of a b*tch. Do we know for instance that the great majority of the medias in Venezuela are holded by the ultraconservative venezuelian oligarchy ? Ten days ago, during a south-american/iberian meeting, the Spanish king Juan Carlos interrupted Chavez by some : "why don't you shut up ?" - "¿Por qué no te callas?", in the tone of voice generally used by a master talking to a slave. All the "normal" european medias described that as a lesson of good behave given by a noble king to some [i]ou... Way to go, righthand, kmcolo, and Teosoma for seeing deeper than the MSM picture. I understand that the Chavez speech to the UN in which he called Bush names contained a number of thought-provoking and important issues. But all we got in the media was the name-calling. The 'walk-out' by the king is not properly covered in US media. It was shown repeatedly on EuroTV. Chavez had interrupted the Spanish PM a number of times, complaining about the former fascist Bush-buddy-PM. On reflection this may have suited the present PM. The king made his impolite input. Fascism is very much a dirty word still in a large section of Spain. In many sports the third person in gets the red carded as in quickly becomes a brawl with number four and five joining in. Only the chairman and not the king should have been up on his feet. Chavez did 'shut up'. That would have been the end but for person number four. President Ortega then repeated Chavez accusations of the former ... |
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