BobbyRutan says: More: We've yet to see that raw Exit data ourselves, as mentioned. But we're working on it. Even while we're still working on getting the never-released raw data from 2004, when the Exit Polls were done then, as now, by Mitofsky/Edison. (BTW: They disavow their own Exit Polling from 2004. So, naturally, the MSM news consortium hired the same folks to do the job again in 2008. Perhaps it was the company's apparently spot-on Exit Polling in Ukraine, in December of 2004, cited as evidence of fraud by George W. Bush and Colin Powell, that the challenger should have won, rather than the incumbant, as the election results announced, in contradiction of the Exit Polls...but don't get us started.) Yup. I understand Kucinich has asked for a recount. Yes, there will be a recount, next Wednesday. Would be a real bombshell. Some good folks in New Hampshire are also on the case, so there is some hope for a real review. Even if result are claimed accurate the procedure for counting them is bad. It is done in secret by a private company!? Better way, more common, is to count votes in public with representatives of all political parties present. People will poll differently than they voted. This has been the essence of my argument. kmcolo, Your argument could be a factor. Pollsters also do evaluations of the "raw" data and modify it afterwards depending on other factors such as who was willing to be interviewed after voting (screening effect/criteria). I have also read that basically the pre-election polling was accurate for Obama. His 37% of votes received was well within the margin of error. Pollsters stopped one day in advance of the vote and therefore did not have a gauge for the Clinton tear effect. Prior to the vote some polls showed that up to 21% (from an article, what I saw was more like 10-12%) of voters had not made up their mind and appeared to be moved by the one show of human emotion Hillary has displa... Edwards is pretty much out, though his influence on the process is still important. I'm for Obama now (I wasn't against him before, just preferred a candidate who expressed many of my convictions and was more electable.) The bad news though, after 1992, everyone I have supported has lost. Maybe I should support Clinton then? Well you still never know what might happen. There is always that video that surfaces (Howard Dean) or errant remark made. Prior to Nevada it looked like Edwards might play a role in a situation where no one secured enough delegates for the nomination and it turned into a brokered convention. That was/is an interesting scenario to think about as it hasn't happened in many moons. Our 1992 candidate won the popular vote, he didn't lose. However he didn't accomplish the slam dunk that should have been achievable. The nation did not receive the President it wanted. Even Kerry might have won if not for the wide spread shenanigans in Ohio (although I was not a fan of the 17 state strategy because... Sorry, I didn't interpret the 1992 statement correctly. I too have not voted for the eventual nominee. However in, 2004 that was an anomaly. My state voted early in the process and it was a toss up amongst the top 4. I didn't see too much difference in the top 4 although I predicted in 2001 that Kerry would be the nominee. Therefore in 2004 I chose to vote for Kucinich to give more strength to his message. |
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