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3-20-2007 11:04 AM
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Kore7 says:
"The calculation was known to be possible in principle, but it was thought to be hopeless in practice," says Adams. "But four years ago a group of us said let's really try to do it. We're pretty sure we've got it right, but it's hard to be 100% sure."

"It's probably one of the most complicated pure mathematical calculations anyone's ever done," says Stewart. "Each entry is difficult to calculate — it's amazing they managed to do this."
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3-20-2007 11:44 AM
Djiezes
I was about to clip this when I read about it on the BBC news page yesterday, but somehow forgot.
Thanks for this refresher Kore. Fascinating stuff.
3-20-2007 3:50 PM
TheCatWhisperer
What's it do?
3-20-2007 4:20 PM
Kore7
The graphic itself is just one 2-D representation of the enormous, incomprehensible 248-D structure.

There is nothing simple about Lie groups (and I'm no expert), but E8 is the most complex, non-regular class of a certain group of geometric symmetries in abstract algebra and topology. This class of symmetries appears often enough in theoretical (particle) physics to warrant the "Mt. Everest" moniker in terms of its importance.

The article in the Telegraph today has more details:
What makes this group of symmetries so exciting is that Nature also seems to have embedded it at the heart...
3-21-2007 9:34 AM
Djiezes
I found the NYT article quite clarifying:

A 19th-century Norwegian mathematician, Sophus Lie (rhymes with tree), wrote down what are now known as Lie groups, sets of continuous transformations — meaning the changes could be a little or a lot — that leave an object unchanged in appearance.

For example, rotate a sphere any distance around any axis, and the sphere looks exactly the same.

Later mathematicians found five exceptions to the four classes of Lie groups that Lie knew about. The most complicated of the “exceptional simple Lie groups” is E8. It describes the symmetries of a 57-dimensional object that can in essen...
3-21-2007 9:58 AM
Kore7
Thanks, Djiezes! That was the best write-up so far.

While we're at it, The American Institute of Mathematics has a site up for the new E8 solution, including links to high-resolution images of the mapping. Beautiful.
3-21-2007 10:02 AM
Djiezes
Woohoo, thank you for the high-res images.
3-21-2007 11:07 AM
bignosemousie
Thanks to both Kore7 and Djiezes for helping me understand this thing.
3-21-2007 12:31 PM
TheCatWhisperer
Indeed! thanks.. i think i might have a faint understanding of it now :|
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