Waterboarding may not have been effective when first tried


	Waterboarding may not have been effective when first tried

kelvin273

8-13-2009 1:45 AM

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cia, torture, waterboarding

kelvin273 says:

Apparently, despite the fact that it wasn't very helpful, the CIA decided that waterboarding was awesome enough to continue.

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