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8-23-2007 10:09 PM
elocin
Unfreakin-believeable
8-23-2007 10:17 PM
mesmer
He must live in a violent environment or he watches violent stuff in his surroundings.
8-23-2007 11:14 PM
skwirlinator
Evil Children!
8-23-2007 11:31 PM
ezsparky
give me a break!

Even if what he drew was meant to be a gun...

please, give me break!

talk about loosing prospective...
8-24-2007 12:52 AM
alanocu
at first I thought it was a photo of the side of a ship and people were jumping overboard?
8-24-2007 12:54 AM
alanocu
and those 'happy face' markings really look threatening...?
8-24-2007 1:10 AM
suzikoh
Five year olds can be suspended in the USA?
hmm...
8-24-2007 3:37 AM
Oortcloud
This is ridiculous. No tolerance = no intelligence. Get some perspective for carrot's sake.
8-24-2007 3:41 AM
Oortcloud
The more I read this the more I get steamed. These "school officials" are a cancer in our society that feeds on fear and ignorance. They have no concept of reality and live off of the over reactions of others.
8-24-2007 4:24 AM
Viiltaja
Hahaha it took me like 2minutes to find the gun from the picture
8-24-2007 5:11 AM
righthand
Jailing Nation: How Did Our Prison System Become Such a Nightmare?

By Daniel Lazare, The Nation. Posted August 20, 2007.

With five percent of the world's population, the U.S. has close to a quarter of the world's prisoners. How did the American criminal justice system go so wrong?
Wake up call. 25% of prisoners in WHOLE WORLD and rising. The kid has no chance.
8-24-2007 5:43 AM
book-mole
Not good. Stupidity is on the rise, and this proves it. Damn.
8-24-2007 6:45 AM
mike_law
Cos of stupid laws like, u get arressted for wearing a hat to the lake or somthing.
8-24-2007 10:23 AM
pokkets
If I knew I would get 3 days off school for drawing a picture like that, I would have done it is a shot. Since they have no idea how to explain what is wrong (i.e. they're paranoid.) to the kid, they tell him to go away, if there did happen to be a problem, it was going to be suspended for three days, and would come back with the kid. How do they score points on those computer games these days ? Most of the time things are being blown up, shot, or both. So this picture proves the kid knows what a gun looks like, but maybe it.s a laser. Any decent kid would have drawn a Light Saber. The whole thing seems funny, but it is far more dangerous. The school officials are a threat, and show absolut...
8-24-2007 10:28 AM
JohnWaterman
Hear, hear Pokkets.
8-24-2007 10:39 AM
caughtflying
well a 13 years old like a mirror only reflects what he see
8-24-2007 10:42 AM
bignosemousie
Look at all the happy faces! I think it's an airplane. Fly the Friendly Skies, people.
8-24-2007 10:50 AM
alanocu
right on, bignosemousie!
8-24-2007 11:21 AM
ericskiff
At least we're calling attention to the stupidity. It used to just happen under our noses

All I drew as a kid were pictures of swords and poor renditions of guns like this one. I would have gotten in a lot of trouble with his teachers.
8-24-2007 11:23 AM
dorine
I thought it was a plane, too. Windows, happy faces, hanging by a rope or something. Zero tolerance has gotten out of hand. Just plain stupid. This kid probably doesn't understand what he's done to get all these ridiculous grownups upset. Another reason to homeschool.
8-24-2007 11:25 AM
NonStatQuo
OMG... Its a WMD.....get down everybody....Better yet, Point it at a Shrub.
8-24-2007 12:30 PM
onlinedesign
Look at all the happy faces! I think it's an airplane. Fly the Friendly Skies, people.
Good thing the "doodle" wasn't discoved in his backpack while checking in at the Airport for summer vacation. The kid would be UNDER the jail...parent's home wire tapped...assests frozen...fired form their jobs...news helicopters over the house...
8-24-2007 12:30 PM
Oortcloud
A gun? I see a road with sidewalks along either side and happy people walking on the sidewalk. Look at the middle with the dotted lines - those are the lines you see on a road. The bottom (the part everyone see as a "handle") is just a building along the road.

The "barrel" is just another building.

This country is getting stupider. I'm starting to think the movie Idiocracy is going to be a documentary one day.
8-24-2007 1:16 PM
tidbit2
It looks to me like an architectural drawing ie: the stickmen and the smiley faces in the windows .
This is certainly a freudian slip on the part of the teachers ,maybe it's them that need a break.
8-24-2007 1:20 PM
ohonetwo
God help us!

Shoot the guy who suspended this poor kid
8-24-2007 1:22 PM
devans00
Alrighty, then.

This is totally punishing the messenger. How else is the kid supposed to turn out when surrounded by violent images and gun images?

This punishment makes no sense.
8-24-2007 1:37 PM
Blors
For the first 2 seconds I thought it was a house with a pond in front of it >.<

In my school in Germany there is also a 13-year old, and he's kind of a weird kid (he was tested high-intelligent) and he always draws lots of violont stick-figure cartoons with loads of bombs and guns and blood etc, and he sometimes walks across the schoolyard reading them out loud (especially the sounds of the weapons, like "bam! bam! rtrtrtrtrtrttrtrt....") and no-one cares or thinks he could be a "threat". (However, he's kind of cool, always making everybody laugh with his weirdness )

I wonder what would happen to him if he was in that school...
8-24-2007 2:04 PM
BartendingBear
As I posted in another clip about the same issue, there was double concern about the child as he was beginning to work on his origami bullets for the gun.
8-24-2007 2:10 PM
jefscol
How can a school suspend a student for a drawing? I'm an artist and perhaps he was just drawing. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Perhaps it would be better to punish the teacher.
8-24-2007 2:16 PM
FalconHunter
Jesus. How can you suspend someone for drawing THIS? I mean, how do they even know it's supposed to be a gun?? Doesn't that show their own extreme fear? And besides, maybe a good idea too keep kids and people from shooting up schools and such, is by not selling guns on every corner of the street, instead of needlessly suspending 13-year olds.
8-24-2007 2:32 PM
sbnbob
Kids like these should be put in Guantanamo, indefinitely.
8-24-2007 5:34 PM
digits
That was close. For a second I thought he had sketched a ship and it was going to run us all down- Glad to know it was only a gun.

Hopefully he'll get the psychiatric help he needs before he's 14 where he starts using permanent markers for his sketches and the sketchpad paper.

Oh and has social services been to his parents home yet in order to jail them for the shows they all watch that have guns in them? After all, if we don't nip this thing in the bud...

He might turn into an artist one day or worse...a grafitti sprayer!
8-24-2007 6:56 PM
tidbit2
mountains out of molehills
8-24-2007 9:29 PM
aculton
OH my lord it is a air plain and the guy on top of it with the crazy smile has a gun.
8-24-2007 10:05 PM
Burunduk
well a 13 years old like a mirror only reflects what he see
Everything I've ever experienced drives me to say this: You are speaking in stereotypes. Please stop.
8-24-2007 10:29 PM
ratilfar
This is ridiculous. I mean if the kid was caught bullying other kids or vandalizing school property I would agree, but a drawing. If the teachers are so worried, maybe they should have a parent/teacher conference first. I mean it only makes sense.
8-25-2007 10:09 AM
strider72
This is why I fully support school choice. This kind of lunacy would not be _possible_ with real competition, because the schools run by these kinds of idiots would go out of business in favor of those with more reasonable policies.

The mom would just pick up and send her kid to another school. So would lots of other parents.
8-25-2007 10:27 AM
BohemianSpirit
People here are outraged. I live in Arizona. Clearly the paranoia and hysteria surrounding school shootings got out of hand in this case. By all accounts, the boy who doodled the gun is a good kid, active and outgoing...not a reclusive, trench coat wearing, sociopath.

I understand that schools are afraid of having to take any responsibility when a tragedy strikes that could have been prevented, and in many cases they are justified in taking action, but this zero tolerance thing is just ridiculous.
8-25-2007 11:12 AM
BartendingBear
Something is not right here, folks, and I'm not talking about the school administration's actions.

Please take a look at the picture in the other clip on the same topic. Notice that while it is inarguably the same basic drawn shape, it is not the same drawing as shown in this clip. There are no happy faces in it nor any stick figure on top of the largest shape, but there some streaky scrawls as if to indicate some surface texture. I don't think it is wildly irresponsible to say that the drawing in the that clip by Newfman is more gun-like than the drawing shown in this clip.

Notice also that in the other clip, the Newfman clip, the...
8-25-2007 11:13 AM
BartendingBear
Is it too much to hope for factual news reporting, even in this most minor of instances, no matter which side the facts fall to?
8-25-2007 11:20 AM
franzrebs
i think they're overreacting... us kids in our school draw stuff like that all the time
8-25-2007 11:35 AM
BartendingBear
Here's some more on my above observation. The CBS NEWS 5 video report acknowledges that the school kept the actual drawing the student did, and the one presented by them was, I THINK, a recreation drawn by the student.

A school spokesman would not comment on the case, citing federal law which dictates privacy in matters of student discipline.

If the school cannot comment on the case, how could FOXNEWS have gained access to the actual drawing?

All I want to know are the facts. Something in this whole instance is wrong, and it is not just the student suspension I speak of.
8-25-2007 11:52 AM
digits
Are you saying that maybe FOXNEWS faked the drawing? Personally, if that was my child, I'd demand they release his artwork. If I had unlimited money I'd also get a copyright attorney and sue the school for keeping it. Can you imagine how much the original could go for on EBay?

Oops. Did I just put an erroneous and unethical thought into someone's mind? Maybe they should suspend me from Clipmarks! 8D LoL
8-25-2007 12:08 PM
hippopotamus
when we were kids, i and my elder brother loved drawing tanks and we had lots of guntoys
8-25-2007 1:08 PM
Oortcloud
My brothers and I drew battle scenes when I was about 5 or 6 (I'm the eldest) with battleships and war planes and gave them to my mom for mother's day. In high school my friends and I wrote stories about assassinating each other in a James Bond type manner. Matter of fact that one went over so well and got so many laughs and chuckles that we did a second part to it.

By today's standards I'd be labled a public threat forced into counceling or rehab.

If drawing a gun is considered a threat because guns kill, then what about a kid that draws a bacteria for science class or a lion sitting in the jungle? This entire hysteria going on in America is just typical of our current trend of self destr...
8-29-2007 5:24 PM
wsteeles
I've been saying it for years, the k-12 education system in this country is broken, utterly the worst system operating in the country today, including health care and this just proves the case again. I'm no art critic but it looked to me like the kid was drawing a house with a driveway and a path to the front door and Mom and Dad and a sibling. He might need a little help with perspective but after all he's only 5. What a disgrace!
8-29-2007 9:09 PM
KElover
Come on when I was a kid I used to draw a lot of guns and weapons, destruction and death too, but I didn't turn out to be an assassin, actually I'm really positive and all
8-30-2007 7:24 AM
Holley 4bbl
I thought it was a street with sidewalks and people walking on it. Things are really getting out of hand in this world.
2-12-2008 8:03 PM
ofcapri
I had to really study and look at it a couple times to really know it was a gun. I think the teacher should have him stay after school and take a extra art class so he could draw a better gun.
I think we got to lighten up on this one!
Some of these comments are really great, like the ones from digits, onlinedesign, NonStatQuo.
I've gone back and taken another look at the drawing and now I think I see a new kind of flying ship on a rescue mission with the captain standing on top giving instructions to the men on a rope trying to save someone from below.Smiley faces are ships logo for rescue.
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