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6-7-2006 1:37 PM
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egoldstein says:
These features are primarily in response to some of the issues we recently faced regarding keeping the peace on the site. We hope these are postiive steps in the right direction.
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6-7-2006 1:46 PM
BigBadWolf
Thank you! Although blocked clippers might clip something I'll not want to miss, at least I have the option.
6-7-2006 1:46 PM
Kore7
Totally!
6-7-2006 1:48 PM
djkraz
see my comment on merican's clip for a perfect example of why you should always think twice before blocking a clipper:
http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/BCE395C3-FF5C-45CD-9524-1F1A2D78676C/
6-7-2006 1:52 PM
BigBadWolf
Yea I remember that Derek but the problem is he posts so much that I am not interested in, I am willing to take my chances.
6-7-2006 1:54 PM
djkraz
I here ya. Just don't want anybody to get to excited and start blocking everyone that had a clip they didn't like..
6-7-2006 2:01 PM
invictus
I probably won't use this feature for anyone. But anyway, some members probably would like to have such an option. The good thing is, Clipmarks is acting quickly and accurately when responding to members' demands.
6-7-2006 4:14 PM
RecordSage
Absolutely right, invictus (except for the 1st sentence )

Great job, CM Team!!!
6-7-2006 5:12 PM
Godfrey Daniel
oops. don't like this one either. Only because I see it as being entirely unnecessary.
6-7-2006 6:12 PM
BigBadWolf
I am already finding this a great feature. Visiting clipmarks is a lot less tiring when I don't have to wade through dozens of clips I already know I have no interest in.
6-7-2006 6:54 PM
bunnicula
I never use block features on messageboards, but I know that some people like them. I'm sure that this will be a welcome feature.
6-7-2006 10:06 PM
BigBadWolf
A side benefit of this... I can use it to weed out clippers who clip in another language.
6-7-2006 10:10 PM
egoldstein
indeed Wolf. that was another reason we did it this way. we'll have a language filter option in place pretty soon hopefully (that will let you select the languages you'd like to see)...but for now, this is a good way to block clippers who clip in foreign languages you don't speak.
6-8-2006 9:43 PM
summer70
I see the reasoning behind this feature, but I hope I am never forced to use it.
I often browse randomly anyhow, but in any case, it's good to sometimes find a clip from someone with different views or interests to your own - keeps your mind fresh
As for the clips in other languages, even those often check out to be to links that I can understand.
But maybe I'm just a different type of clipper to most people here ...
6-8-2006 9:45 PM
egoldstein
summer, i totally agree with you...a feature i hope to never use!
6-8-2006 10:36 PM
Godfrey Daniel
I never will.
Regarding the foreign language clips, you are going to miss some good stuff if you don't check them out. I usually do a translate on the title or the first paragraph.
6-9-2006 5:17 AM
RecordSage
summer70, you're right... that is until people start abusing the priviledge. I realize that I'm biased, since I've asked for this feature, but CM team a great implementation of it, even better than I originally thought how it would function. Even if you 'axe' someone - you still have the option of easily seeing some of their comments temporarily or resurrect their status and use the system as before. I'm not sure why some have complained about this feature, since one can always use it as it was before, nobody's forcing anyone to use the 'axe' option... this simply adds a useful SELF-moderation feature. Anyway, I guess there's no reason to oversell it, since it's already in place

And ...
6-9-2006 5:42 AM
RecordSage
Case in point - I see that Amaruca has posted something, I'd guess that it's related to me, I'd also guess that it's nothing positive or constructive... but she's already been 'axed' (my terminology for turning clipmarkers/comments off), so all I see is her separator star... no wasted time etc. - way cool
6-9-2006 8:14 AM
egoldstein
your instincts serve you well RecordSage
6-9-2006 1:05 PM
Godfrey Daniel
I just don't get why anyone would want to miss Amaruca's hilarious comments.

What's this going to come to, a bunch of disconnected high school cliques?
6-9-2006 1:37 PM
RecordSage
Godfrey Daniel, if I want comedy - I'll watch the Honeymooners or I Love Lucy or Seinfeld or Benny Hill - that's comedy.

As for what it's going to come to - a bunch of colorful separators with her name on it... which is fair, since it is the star she picked. And since it is a free country - of course you enjoy her 'comedy'.
6-9-2006 1:45 PM
anonymology
If anyone blocks me, I'm going to kick their arse! Like anyone would want to block me - I'm MARVELLOUS!
6-9-2006 1:47 PM
Godfrey Daniel
Again, humor issue. The only one on your list that makes me laugh is Seinfeld.

By far my favorite humor is unintended humor. Normally you have to keep a sharp eye out for it, but occasionally, as is the case with Amaruca's bright and shiny icon, there are indicators that guarantee a find.
6-9-2006 2:05 PM
RecordSage
Well, if CM guys ever come up with AI algorithm of just those moments and mark them so - I'll be happy to click 'show' and laugh with you.

As for the shows - you don't like the Honeymooners? You don't appreciate Jackie? or even more importantly - Ed 'Ralphy Boy' Norton? Well, as they say - to each his own. Seinfeld was a great show in the beginning, but seems once Larry David departed - Jerry started going downhill. But long live the Soup Nazi, Cramerica and GEORGE!
6-9-2006 2:16 PM
BigBadWolf
The Honeymooners rule!!! Every comedy act since has used them as reference. Lucille Ball was the queen for sure. Fraiser is one of the few new comedies I like.

When i thought teh rants of Amaruca and Co. were funny, that was fun. Now it's saddening and best ignored which will probably inflame them even more.
6-9-2006 2:40 PM
Godfrey Daniel
One of the new features that I understand, but still am not too fond of, is the "truncated unless clicked" thing. I missed your offer to translate from the russian for me because of it, Mr. Sage. Thank you most kindly. I could have really used your help a number of times is past, and so you will likely find be taking you up on your generous offer in future.
6-9-2006 2:43 PM
Godfrey Daniel
As to the TV show topic, other than Seinfeld, those shows are way before my time. Seen some in reruns, but not much. I was raised (thank God for wise parenting) without TV. Benny Hill seems aimed at the 14 year old.
6-9-2006 2:49 PM
Merican
Actually I am perfectly happy to live without the pentagon of hate.
6-9-2006 2:52 PM
Godfrey Daniel
A pentagonal TV set? Never seen one. Are they common on your planet, Merican?
6-9-2006 2:54 PM
BigBadWolf
I love how he always says we're the ones that hate.
6-9-2006 3:05 PM
Godfrey Daniel
[i]stone speaking: papa was a rollin' stone.... where ever he lay his hat was his home....
6-9-2006 3:06 PM
Merican
Yep, before you said that, Amaruca, there was some kinda noise, but I didn't hear it.
6-9-2006 3:07 PM
BigBadWolf
Yea Amaruca... your past posts are so full of love!
6-9-2006 3:07 PM
BigBadWolf
I get all warm and fuzzy just thinking about them.

Tea and crumpets anyone?
6-9-2006 3:08 PM
Merican
Have you ever had headphones on and had someone mouthing words when they weren't really talking? They think the joke is on you. But in the end the joke is on them.
6-9-2006 3:17 PM
Merican
thebeatpoet said:

y'all...
Hey BeatGuy, you are from BROOKLYN, you are supposed to say YOUSEGUIZE, not Y'all
6-9-2006 3:20 PM
BigBadWolf
And, commercial free no less!
6-9-2006 3:20 PM
Godfrey Daniel
Interesting to see who reveals their inclination to control and limit exposure to disagreement. Mythology requires vigilant and strenuous measures to be maintained.
6-9-2006 3:27 PM
Merican
Youseguize need to get it right. Only uz Southern imports can say yall.
6-9-2006 3:29 PM
Merican
By the way, as I now live in Manhattan, I have become multilingual, which is why I can also say youseguize.
6-9-2006 3:33 PM
BigBadWolf
A valiant yet desperate effort at being cool is it not?

Merican why don't you come down and see Clippettes play on Saturday?
6-9-2006 3:33 PM
Merican
Signing off early today. Must get ready for analog friends.
6-9-2006 3:40 PM
anonymology
Have we really reached the stage where a clip which is essentially about keeping warring factions apart itself descends into warfare?

There's an irony in there somewhere, I'm sure, but the whole thing's much too tedious at this stage to bother with anymore.

God help us all...
6-9-2006 3:42 PM
Merican
I am not engaged in any war, trust me. I have shut them out. I have no idea what they may be saying.
6-9-2006 3:45 PM
Kore7
It's like watching a war where we secretly replaced both sides' rifles with nerf guns. I get a kick out of it...
6-9-2006 3:46 PM
egoldstein
love the analogy kore!
6-9-2006 3:47 PM
BigBadWolf
That's only because you're a sick twisted bastard Jason. Although a luvable one at that.
6-9-2006 3:48 PM
anonymology
I don't know what a Nerf gun is but I like the point.
6-9-2006 3:49 PM
BigBadWolf
But I am serious... I invite Merican to come down to Clipettes play on Saturday and we'll bury the hatchet once and for all so we can put this nonsense behind us.
6-9-2006 3:51 PM
anonymology
I think that sounds like a grand idea Wolf.
6-9-2006 3:53 PM
Godfrey Daniel
Got to love your optimism, BBW, albeit naive.
Engaging you as a real person would cause cracks in the stucture of the mythology, creating a potential crumbling.

Hope I'm wrong, though. Let us know if she shows up.
6-9-2006 3:56 PM
Merican
I think this should be mixed randomly wiht the psycho killer threads.
6-9-2006 3:58 PM
anonymology
Ah, who needs world wars and invasions and the like when you can come to CM and see all the bitter and vile hatred you need.

Marvellous.
6-9-2006 3:59 PM
BigBadWolf
Well Godfrey someone has to try and be the rational one here. I've made several offers to call a truce and usually they were met with... well, you know.

Funny thing is I get along with some pretty heavy liberals here. invictus, jklugman, kore, etc. without issue.
6-9-2006 4:00 PM
Godfrey Daniel
stone speaking: thank you faletinme be mice elf... again
6-9-2006 4:01 PM
Athyrius
Merican said:
I think this should be mixed randomly wiht the psycho killer threads.
ROFLMAO!
6-9-2006 4:02 PM
Godfrey Daniel
[i]stone speaking: i can't get no, satisfaction{/i]
6-9-2006 4:04 PM
Athyrius
Yep.. this is all you need.

But somehow I just can't see ya'all with flowers in your hair.
6-9-2006 4:06 PM
Godfrey Daniel
Funny thing is I get along with some pretty heavy liberals here. invictus, jklugman, kore, etc. without issue.
And this is the norm IRL

I'm starting to find this new "two way mirror" thing fun. Those of us that don't censor have a distinct advantage, and a lot more laughs.
6-9-2006 4:07 PM
anonymology
And those of us in the middle just having our heads spinning around (and not in that fun Exorcist way!).
6-9-2006 4:25 PM
RecordSage
Godfrey, the offer stands... so feel free any time. I speak English with the Mrs., but still remember the old lingo for some key relatives (like MIL).

As for Benny Hill - I was a little older than 14 when I watched him, but not by much... I guess the thing that endeared him to me was European humor, which is vastly different than American humor (perhaps explaining my lack of interest in 'liberal' humor here). Gleason was before my time as well, but after watching it a little bit - I've come to really enjoy it. In fact if you've ever watched the Flynstones - talk about similarities... And Lucy was before my (watching) time, but she's called the Queen of Comedy for a reason.
BBW referre...
6-9-2006 7:11 PM
Godfrey Daniel
stone talking: I ...I.... I... am everyday people....yeah yeah yeah
6-9-2006 7:29 PM
BigBadWolf
lol
6-9-2006 7:36 PM
Kore7
6-9-2006 7:54 PM
Godfrey Daniel
stone talking: here comes your nineteenth nevous breakdown......
6-9-2006 8:08 PM
RecordSage
Now the separator idea was good initially, but now there are too many of them... kind of looks like a pattern. The separators need to be spread out more to make it visually more appealing perhaps... maybe not...
6-9-2006 8:31 PM
BigBadWolf
Brown nosing... yea that's me. lol

Ericmassa... can I fold dem dare clothes for you sir? God bless you Missa Eric fo' sharin dis heya site wif'n us po' folk.
6-9-2006 8:37 PM
jklugman
Amaruca, you are being really rude, obnoxious, and unpleasant, especially in this last comment.
6-9-2006 8:46 PM
BigBadWolf
LOL she is even turning against people who were once on her side!
6-9-2006 8:49 PM
Godfrey Daniel
A troubled child. Really getting embarrassing. I've been trying to just get a laugh and some entertainment value from her comments, but with someone this wack you start to feel guilty enjoying their neurosis.
6-9-2006 8:52 PM
BigBadWolf
Didn't I already say this GD? I went from laughing to feeling bad for her.

It's ok though, it means you're human and you have a heart. Well, as long as those things are ok with you.
6-10-2006 7:36 AM
anonymology
Holy heavens, Amaruca, you'll soon have no one left here if you stay so trigger happy on that block button!

I think I'm going to start a clip entitled: 'How many clippers have you blocked?' The person with the highest tally at the end of the week will get a prize. (I haven't yet decided what that prize will be yet. One of those nerf guns, whatever they are!)

On the other hand, I might just go to the pub shortly.
6-10-2006 2:23 PM
bookchick49
Amaruca said:
"Since neocons are always brown-nosing the person they think is in charge, I'll just start with ego-ldstein. Then I wont have to look at all the incessant brown-nosing which goes on around here, which I find disgusting. "
Amaruca, I distinctly recall a clip where you commented that you have witnessed numerous accounts of neoconism, brown nosing, etc on "every forum, chat room, blog, etc" and so I ask you now...

Don't you have somewhere else to go? Some character bashing going on in another forum that needs to be had?

Sorry but I've watched long enough. Putting in my 2 cents. I'd like to see this wretched attitude stop.

Furthermore, Amaruca.... someone ...
6-10-2006 2:25 PM
Godfrey Daniel
... and with that, BC gets a ticket to Iggyland.
Welcome.
6-10-2006 2:32 PM
Kore7
We're all neocons, now.
6-10-2006 2:38 PM
Godfrey Daniel
You know, I'm not even sure what a neocon actually is.
I rememer when I first heard it, it seemed to be an attempt to isolate and stigmatize Jewish members of the Bush team for having the chutzpah to leave the "Jewish left plantation", similar to the attacks on "conservatives of faded color"'.

What's your understanding, K7?
6-10-2006 2:40 PM
bookchick49
Get this... my bird's name is neo! LOL So I guess we're both neo cons.

GD: I'm with you re the neocon. I'm so tired of reading this word that I actually think it's a term used by forum terrorists! LOL
6-10-2006 2:40 PM
bookchick49
oh shit!! LOL sorry
6-10-2006 2:58 PM
Merican
Bookchick, don't you think it fair, if you are going to censor, to censor equally? Shouldn't you also disinvite one of the following: Willhelm, GD, BBW, RS, or Bitdrifter? Just for balance?
6-10-2006 2:58 PM
funana
1. member of the neoconclipperclub!

I allways asked me: What da f* does she mean with all the neocon this and neocon that shizzm. Oh man.. The world is full of too many shizzm, izzms and terrorizzles, I think. But neo-con? A neo conservative? u-huuu. I think then I am a retroalternative.

But hey Amaruca: I love you. Feel huged. Open the window, take a deep breath and maybe one or two prozakizzles. "Reih Dich ein in die Arbeiter-Einheitfront!".

I still dont give a f* about all that populistic izzmizzle shizznis here. I love Clipmarks and it's really edutainment.

One love, and stay nice, fellas!
6-10-2006 3:02 PM
Godfrey Daniel
I don't think BC is the type that would block anyone.
6-10-2006 3:04 PM
Godfrey Daniel
That is a classic comment, Funana!
One love my homey!
6-10-2006 3:19 PM
BigBadWolf
Even though I originally embraced this feature, I decided their comments were too frought with ism's to miss.

Seriously though it does make me sad to see her to the point where she has become like this. There must be a lot of hurt under that gruff exterior. I still love her anyway.
6-10-2006 3:26 PM
Godfrey Daniel
Shouldn't you also disinvite one of the following: Willhelm, GD, BBW, RS, or Bitdrifter? Just for balance?
Very revealing. Balance measured by whom you ignore, rather than whom you consider.
6-10-2006 3:28 PM
funana
One love my homey!
*hug
6-10-2006 3:29 PM
BigBadWolf
Ok you two are sharing a little too much love here.

Besides, where's the group hug?
6-10-2006 3:30 PM
funana
*here here here! group hug!!!
6-10-2006 3:31 PM
nevets85
*group hug!*
6-10-2006 4:00 PM
willhelm
Bookchick, don't you think it fair, if you are going to censor, to censor equally? Shouldn't you also disinvite one of the following: Willhelm, GD, BBW, RS, or Bitdrifter? Just for balance?
Equal censorship to all under the law.. What an intellectual perspective.
6-10-2006 4:58 PM
bookchick49
Merican, I was not censoring - maybe I don't understand what you're implying.... but here's my feelings on the pooping party that's been going on of late.

1) There's a difference between character hate bashing and constructive topic hashing. And recent conversatons have turned certain clips into a war zone for character bashing. Quite frankly, I'm tired of it. The fun and constructive debate that sometimes entails in a clip has, in many cases (lately) been extremely dampened by person(s) with severe pooping tactics.

2) Even when the bashee(s) are asked to stop there's always at least one that has to have the last word until they have successfully moved the clippers on to other clip ...
6-10-2006 4:59 PM
bookchick49
HOWEVER, I will openly admit that I do indeed despise and deplore "the unneccessary and totally inappropriate attitude" of a few. As I've mentioned before, (in case anyone wasn't reading), disagreements over topics and constructive "topic" debate is always expected in CM and any other similar forum. But when things get downright personal and hateful and people pile up on other people to bash them, I feel like I'm reading terrorism in real time. It's utterly appalling to me that mature individuals can act this way and think that they aren't hurting someone somewhere, whether it be in a slanderous comment, foul language or publicly airing a hateful attitude directed at other members. How ...
6-10-2006 5:06 PM
nevets85
Hear hear bookchick49.

http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/C87B0DD2-B19F-4BC9-AAB9-5F004788FD8D/

That is why I feel that one should have the ability to block certain users from posting on your own clips. Clearly nobody wants to be in that situation, however having the feature to block someone is simply realistic and helps deal with people who abuse others.
6-10-2006 5:09 PM
Godfrey Daniel
BookChick49: Clipmark's Bridgebuilder
6-10-2006 5:12 PM
Godfrey Daniel
The best blocking mechanism is unemotional discernment. The internal ordering of things
6-10-2006 5:30 PM
bookchick49
oops. Allow me to be politically correct. #2 in my previous post should state: "even when the basher(s) / bashee(s) are asked to stop, there's always at least one....."

And GD, you are correct. I have NOT blocked anyone.
6-10-2006 5:46 PM
invictus
There's a difference between character hate bashing and constructive topic hashing. And recent conversatons have turned certain clips into a war zone for character bashing. Quite frankly, I'm tired of it.
This was why I thought of going back to private clipping sessions some days ago. I couldn't agree more bookchick, I'm also tired of it. But the character bashing trend was (and still is) two-sided. The most disturbing part is, people I loved or respected get involved in this tiring and hurting game. Democrats and Republicans; conservatives and liberals; left and right... Whatever we call this polarization, both sides here unfortunately turned the discussion to a character bas...
6-10-2006 5:46 PM
invictus
As I said earlier, we can enjoy the different opinions and disagreements if we take them as opportunities to learn the otherside's concerns. We can go in hot discussions here (if it is necessary) and we don't need to reach a consensus every time. There will always be conflicts between ideas and views, and chances are very low for any of the sides to convince or persuade the other. Nobody would change his/her opinion so easy. We could see this plural platform as the wealth of Clipmarks. I think, it would be a very boring, monotonous place, if everybody agreed with me on every subject, on every issue: too many "me"s around - no, don't want it

If we really want to, we can find many common i...
6-10-2006 6:03 PM
Kore7
Wow, what a weird, funny discussion this thread has become. I agree with all the sentiments BC and Invictus expressed above. Even more surprisngly, I completely agree with GD about the emotional disattachment bit.

GD: Re: the neoconservative movement, you're generally right, but it has all become incredibly complex, *especially* as of late with Bush and Iraq turning out as they did. I'll try to clip some stuff later...for now I gotta go play in the sun while it's still up.
6-10-2006 6:37 PM
Godfrey Daniel
def not a river in Egypt.
6-10-2006 6:47 PM
bookchick49
Then I take this to be your last word.
6-10-2006 7:42 PM
nevets85
Amaruca. When you block someone why do you announce it to the world? Do you considder it some sort of petty victory by being able to click the block button?

You did the same to me, you are a very odd character.
6-10-2006 8:41 PM
nevets85
*rolls eyes*
6-10-2006 9:12 PM
jklugman
"someone just clipped (in case you missed it), that schools are now advocating the use of Clipmarks to their students. "

Could someone copy and paste the clip link here? I missed this...thanks--Josh
6-10-2006 9:12 PM
RecordSage
nevets85, obviously you're new here... First - Welcome!
... don't waste your time or roll your eyes. Whenever you see someone abusing the privilege of being here (there are a few) or calling people names without making any sense, simply click on 'axe' button (aka little gray 'x' next to the person's name). You then determine whether you'd like their clipmarks visible and/or comments visible and bingo - you enter a normal environment, with a number of separators (i.e. where offenders' comments used to be) here and there, but essentially takes care of the problem. If you feel that things are too civil - the CM team allows you to exercise self-abuse by clicking 'show' on any of those separa...
6-10-2006 9:20 PM
invictus
Josh, I think the clip was this one.

Or, if not, it means there was another which I also missed. I'd like to read it too.
6-10-2006 9:57 PM
nevets85
"the CM team allows you to exercise self-abuse by clicking 'show' on any of those separators, but I wouldn't recommend it"

LMAO
Thanks RecordSage.
6-10-2006 10:30 PM
jklugman
Thanks invictus!
6-11-2006 1:53 PM
BigBadWolf
If Amaruca is childish enough to blacklist EricG, her role here at CM is obviously of little importance.
6-11-2006 3:26 PM
123clipmarks
Oh I think that this is a neat feature. I do agree that odd comments are funny at first because they are just totally unexpected, but, when you realize that the people are really serious about some really weird stuff, I'd just like to step away. I also wonder why people that don't really like the discussions at all actually keep reading any of the comments. They could just read the clip and go to the next on. That is just odd to me. It almost seems like certain folks were looking for ways to object with every topic.

Is it possible to let the people who get block see the number of times (not the names) they have been blocked. I think if a person got blocked like a thousand times the...
6-11-2006 3:36 PM
Kore7
Is it possible to let the people who get block see the number of times (not the names) they have been blocked. I think if a person got blocked like a thousand times they would realize it was them. I'd like to know if I got blocked a thousand times.
That's a fun thought.
6-11-2006 3:40 PM
willhelm
Is it possible to let the people who get block see the number of times (not the names) they have been blocked. I think if a person got blocked like a thousand times they would realize it was them. I'd like to know if I got blocked a thousand times.
I think you would find clipmarks123, it is the most sensible and decent people that are blocked by the intolerant. It is not usually used for abusive language or indiscriminate venom. It is used by those wishing to perceive their own bigoted view without interruption from anothers opinion. I hope Godfery Daniel doesn't mind me using his example. He likens it to the childish behavior of sticking your fingers in your ear and sayion...
6-11-2006 4:24 PM
Athyrius
BBW said:
If Amaruca is childish enough to blacklist EricG, her role here at CM is obviously of little importance.
Hello? This is like saying that if you don't read the Editorial page of a newspaper you don't have the right to read the paper.
If Amaruca wants to block ANYONES content on this site it is her right. Are you saying that if she doesn't read the owner/moderaters posts that she doesn't belong here? How Childish is that determination?
I can understand why YOU don't want her here- but others may well want her here and enjoy seeing her posts and her bulldog tactics.
6-11-2006 4:27 PM
Godfrey Daniel
Wow, BBW, you're apparently irresistible too.

I'm hearing Nat King Cole in my head.
6-11-2006 4:32 PM
Godfrey Daniel
...even though it makes no sense..
6-11-2006 4:37 PM
BigBadWolf
Hello? Is this thing on?

If you'd open up your mind and put your childhood heartache away for one teesny weensy second you'd realize that EricG is the one that announces updates, mods, fixes, etc. to clipmarks. One would have to imagine that his posts are important to those who give a rats ass about clipmarks. At least enough so that instead of acting like a spoiled brat, she could ignore the ones she doesn't want to read.

You three little pigs evidently thought you could come to clipmarks, terrorize everyone into submission and take over. Well little girls,it should be obvious by now it AIN'T happenin! Sooooo, time to get over it and move on with life. Start acting like adults, realize...
6-11-2006 4:43 PM
Godfrey Daniel
The thing that she isn't taking into consideration is that--speaking for myself--she was taken at her word, and wasn't seeing any of our vileness. Her delicate sensitivities would surely have been taken into account had we imagined that she had just been kidding.
6-11-2006 4:47 PM
BigBadWolf
I think invictus and Jk should give the three of them lessons on clearly stating a point and how to debate without losing your cool.
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