 dfiskey says: you have to check this out-- this is crazy..and who would have thought that the company that would deliver your pizza in 30 minutes or it's free would be capable of this? Can't even fathom this could be possible Someone had clipped this the other day as well. It is pretty scary. Nice thing will be you can have your communion delivered to your house in 30 minutes or less after you phone in your confession. Heck by the time you finish your 10 hail Mary's and 20 Our Fathers, your euchristic minister will be at your door with eurchrist and wine in hand waiting. I really don't get why this is scary. If people want to live there what does it matter to you? Scary part is that if you are born into this neighborhood - then you are pretty much stuck being raised in the Catholic Dogma. Since it would seem you lose your ability for freedom to worship. What if a teen decides they don't want to go to church or not follow that religon? It sounds much like Vatican City to me. They will control the local media, etc. The other aspect is I am not real sure how the town would be able to get state or federal assitance. Tom maybe wealthy, but certainly he can't provide everything the State and Fed gov't can. Thus they will need state and Fed $$. So now is the Church and State really seperate? Well there are communities living out standards that differ with the norm with apparent success. The Amish, the Mennonites, the Castro, the Village, West Hollyweird, and so on.. Another thought. If these poor misguided folk choose to deprive themselves of such high and noble expressions of humanity as abortion, and pornography, isn't that just their loss? The Amish and the Mennonites are a bit different. They are around my area and really don't bother anyone else and are not out to change the community. They just have their piece of the area and do their thing. The diffference is they are not preventing others from having churches around them. At least not around here. They respect other people's religous beliefs and do not try to impose thier beliefs on anyone. The Catholic church is exactly the opposite. What happens if someone wants to move into the area who is Luthern, Jewish, etc. would they stop them from creating a church or following their religon. What if an atheist wants to move in? Again - I am not saying this town is ev... It's funny Godfrey, how you castigate and criticize Muslims who want to live according to what they believe should be their government inspired from the Koran, and you find perfectly normal to do it from the Bible. Religious fundamentalists are the same everywhere. Again your laughing at your own joke. I didn't make it. It's fine if people want to establish VOLUNTARILY and IN FREEDOM the governance of their choosing. How could a child born in such an environment establish VOLUNTARILY and IN FREEDOM the governance of its choosing ? The only way to have that, in which I totally agree with you, is to ensure total freedom of religion in the place you are born. That means such a village is exactly the opposite, as well as a Muslim country living according to the Islamic law, because you don't have the choice. When I was a kid, I was never forced to be an atheist. I had the choice to go to whichever church I wanted to. My wife, which was raised more or less in the same way, even went to bible lessons. Fortunately for her, she stopped quite early. A child with unresticted choices is an unparented child. LOL yeah I'm gonna tell that to my parents next diner with them, they're gonna have a good laugh. Hmmm. I just finished reading the linked article, and I'm afraid I don't see the issue. Currently cities and towns have the ability to enact ordinances, statues, regulations and legislation that affects zoning and what goods and services may be sold at which locations. For example, an adult caberet might not be permitted to be constructed within a certain number of miles of an elementary school. Like every other city in America, this new "Catholic city" must abide by these same rules.... From the original article: "the town, and any restrictions they may place on Please excuse the typos  My comments are many and so I'm posting a few rather than one. Quote: "with no place to get an abortion, porn or birth control." UnQuote I don't see this being much different than some Baptist communities where dancing and drinking are restrictions. Or what you wear is part of your belief. What I do see it spawning however, is a movement out of the community by young adults as they begin making decisions for themselves and searching for "self." No one is saying they can't and they won't. All of us have moved or changed our beliefs at some point in time in our life. I'm not sure how Tom believes this plan to be "God's will" other than the fact that he's tithing back to the community ... Part II: Civil libertarians aren't always right and aren't always for the betterment of all humanity. Sorry, but there are some things that I disagree with. The FDA is another sore subject for me. Or how about the folks that bomb abortion clinics? grrrr. No one likes anything shoved down their throats in term of beliefs and no one is saying that this is in Tom's plan. I don't see the problem with building a community around a university. Brigham Young anyone? Dearborn, MI is the largest Muslim community in Michigan (also ranking high among other cities in the U.S.). Never use to be. And I don't hear civil libertarians complaining about that one. If I wanted to attend their mass (... I might be asking for trouble when I ask this question. Consider it rhetoric if you want. How is this so "un-American?" He has the freedom of choice, the freedom of belief, and the freedom to "spend" for the betterment of communities. Need an abortion? Take a trip outside Domino-ville and visit the next community. Basically speaking, let's assume he's doing nothing more than setting up a community for those that have staunch Catholic beliefs. Many communities throughout the U.S. are built around churches and visa versa. No one says you have to go to any of them and no one says you have to live around them. People here make their own choices. Tom may live in the community he and his... Finally, Yes, I was raised under catholicism. Father was an alter boy in his younger days and mother raised under strict (Italian) catholic belief. Fortunately, I learned as they learned and later in my years.... had the freedom to move on without family or government reprecussion. Today, I believe in a God of my own understanding. Keeps me out of trouble. ;o) rmowery: Are you sure that you don't have catholics confused with Jehovah Witness? I don't know of any catholics that force others to believe as they do. hmmm.... ?? Nor do I see catholics going from door to door to sell me a religion as the JW's do. I also don't see Tom's plan creating segregation. I do see his plan, how... "a community based on wholesome family ethics" This, of course, has come to be viewed as an "extreme, fundamentalist nightmare scenario" by the hip, libertine, and narcissistic pop culture. You went to a lot of work to present your thoughts on this and I appreciate the effort and agree with much of it. Bookchick49, I found your comments to be well reasoned and logical. Thanks for taking the time to post them. Thanks guys! |
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