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7-4-2007 3:34 AM
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zasel says:
George Bush has been asking around the white house about why people seem to dislike America, or is it just him they dislike. My guess is that the world will once again warm up to America and appreciate us for the great country we are, once the Bush boy is gonzo. I just wish he were heading to the Hague where he could be tired, along with Cheney and Rumsfeld for war crimes.
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7-4-2007 9:43 AM
debbyski
He believes in capital punishment.
7-4-2007 11:02 AM
spinmonkey
What's wrong with capital punishment? If someone broke into your home, kidnapped your 5 year-old daughter, raped, tortured, and mutilated her body, was eventually caught and through DNA was found guilty, would you still be compassionate? Is is not curious how most families of the victims of these types of violent crimes are pro death penalty but most people who are anti haven't this sort of experience?
7-4-2007 11:03 AM
spinmonkey
Sorry...went on a tangent there.
7-4-2007 12:29 PM
independents
They're Pro Death Penalty because it happened to them. They obviously don't care about others. If something of that magnitude happened spinmonkey, we have our society to blame!
7-4-2007 1:41 PM
thorswitch
I truly hope that the rest of the world will give us a "2nd chance" after Bush is gone. I'm thinking that since Germany has been able to earn its way back into most of the world's good graces, and Hitler truly was far worse than Bush, it's not unreasonable to think that we will have our chance to earn back the world's respect as well. But I also think we're going to have to WORK at it. The world isn't going to just go back to worshiping at the altar of the Mighty United States. And they shouldn't. We have to show them that we can see this administration for the colossal blunder it has been and that we can take back the reigns of the country and set it right.
7-4-2007 1:46 PM
zasel
Spinmonkey, no need to apologize for your tangent. This is a very emotional topic to say the least. I have come full circle concerning this issue. In the earlier years of my life I was totally pro death penalty, and I used the same analogy your employed in your comment. But as I got a bit older I began to rethink the matter. When a person commits a heinous crime, such as the abomination you described, it is a natural reaction to want revenge. But I am firmly convinced that the state cannot take life. The state can try to protect life, but never take it. By taking the perpetrator's life we reduce ourselves to the same level as him or her. And then of course, there is the other proble...
7-4-2007 2:36 PM
BartendingBear
GWB, corrupt ass-hat. We should like him because...?
7-4-2007 2:53 PM
skwirlinator
Skwirl For President!!!!
7-4-2007 6:52 PM
spinmonkey
I'm usually a little more level-headed but there's so many horrible crimes happening on a daily basis, I've become too emotional about the subject. I think what pushed me over the edge were two particular cases: the girl that was abducted from the mall in Kansas and then killed the other day and also the guy in Florida that broke into a home, kidnapped a little 7 year old, raped her over and over, then buried her alive in a trash bag in his back yard when he got spooked. When authorities dug her up, they found that she had torn a little hole in the bag and her fingers, which were only bones when they found her, were sticking out in an attempt to get air. I'm just so disgusted with it all. I ...
7-5-2007 1:11 AM
BobbyRutan
The excessive building of jails is not a result of storing capital murderers. It's a result of the ridiculous war on drugs that incarcerates people who should never be in jail such as pot smokers.

The cost of storing a person for life is actually less than the cost it takes to ensure a death penalty verdict.

There have been at least 350 Americans wrongly accused of the death penalty this century.
7-5-2007 3:34 AM
pokkets
Bush knows why. He acts like an idiot, so that people are more likely to consider him a fool than a criminal.
When the republicans shed him, and elect Dick Cheney as next President of the Untied States he will have the "Mandate" to invade Iran. The wealthy aren't as particular about popularity, as they are about the politics of fear and distraction. Popularity is a PR man's job. The Margin next year will be 51:49.
7-5-2007 3:58 AM
CoviwinklesNo1Fan
I would never be pro death, even if that happened, spinmonkey.

as for bush, he has no feelings for animals. NONE! do you know chickens in the US have no protection whatsoever! I hope all of you over there are Veagans!! I'm not sure I will ever be able to think of you guys as a great country, your so big, and Bush thinks he is supreme over all else.
7-5-2007 4:28 AM
farfalla294
Maybe, as pokkets says, Bush Knows why. Or maybe he's fallen into a slow progressive mental corruption: that is probable in fact... ;->
7-5-2007 6:41 AM
zrezvi
I recall a quote from Oliver Stone's movie 'Nixon' :

Nixon shuffles back alone, coming to a stop in front of a larger-than-life, full-length oil portrait of JOHN F. KENNEDY. Nixon studies the portrait, pads closer. Looks up.

NIXON (CONT'D)
When they look at you, they see what they want to be.
(then)
When they look at me, they see what
they are ...
7-5-2007 9:29 PM
Jorjor
Spinmonkey, look at the situation in Illinois (around '97-'98), where it turned out that more than half the people who were on death row were innocent. Then-governor Ryan put a moratorium on the death penalty and commuted all the remaining guilty felons to life without parole. Even DNA evidence is subject to human error or corruption, and once a person has been executed, all the new evidence in the world won't perform a resurrection. Note also that lab backlogs sometimes mean that DNA evidence remains unprocessed even when cases come to trial. Ryan was later convicted on corruption charges, but, unlike Bush, at least he owned up to injustices occuring on his watch.

It's also been demonstr...
7-5-2007 9:50 PM
pokkets
Paranoia is an unreasonable fear, fear that defies reason, commonsense, physical evidence, eyewitness testimony, and the truth. The American People are accused of being ignorant. They are in fact being denied knowledge, and are being repressed by those who have no qualms about using paranoia as a political weapon. The main stream media for so long was the principle conduit of information regarding most aspects of life. That was before the internet. When the elite designed their social agenda they did not see the net coming. The only defense the people have is their own research, and a determination to know the truth.The people are pawns,The elite are puppets. Money is the string. The puppeteer?
7-6-2007 9:41 AM
spinmonkey
Thanks everybody for all the comments. This might sound silly but I watched Jet Li's "Fearless" yesterday and was deeply touched by the messages in it. Like the main character, I've been holding in a lot of anger from a past experience and know I need to move beyond it. I've been devastated for three years now and I'm so tired of feeling this way. Anyway, I realize now that life without anger is life without revenge. I wish you peace.
7-7-2007 1:21 PM
zasel
Anger is a perfectly acceptable emotion, spinmonkey; without it we would be lost. The trick is to learn now to express that anger is a way that does not create even more. But DO express it.

Be well my friend,
7-7-2007 1:39 PM
dinesy
Impeach.
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