It says certain things were said and then concludes dishonestly that the things said by Falwell, and Robertson are similar to Wright's remarks and have similar meanings as per anti-Americanism,

Your right. Fallwell and Robertson are worse.

and fails to consider the huge difference between someone who goes to a
church for 20 years and calls the Pastor a mentor and the normal
political posturing that candidates MUST do if they are ever to get
elected.

So one must ignore the hypocracy of a politcian that claims to ride the straight talk express and once called men such as Reobertson and Farrakahn the agents of intolerance (and rightly so) but attack the honesty of...

It says certain things were said and then concludes dishonestly that the things said by Falwell, and Robertson are similar to Wright's remarks and have similar meanings as per anti-Americanism,

Your right. Fallwell and Robertson are worse.

and fails to consider the huge difference between someone who goes to a
church for 20 years and calls the Pastor a mentor and the normal
political posturing that candidates MUST do if they are ever to get
elected.

So one must ignore the hypocracy of a politcian that claims to ride the straight talk express and once called men such as Reobertson and Farrakahn the agents of intolerance (and rightly so) but attack the honesty of a man who confronts the issue head on.

And who said that one MUST embrace racist, bigotted and destructive ideas? If that is what John McCain needs to do to get elected, then he doesn't deserve the office. By your admission he is a liar and deciever. One shows courage, the other cowardice. I'll go with the courageous man every day.

Thats part of the problem, politcians that choose political expediency over facing the harsh realities. McCain and Clinton are cut from the same cloth. Obama shows another way.

You have announced that your judgment of what is pro American is direct revelation from God I take it.

HA! Wait...HAHAHAHA!!! (gasp!) HA!...(cough...cough...cough)...

Ok, I got that out of my system....

No one can be that arrogant, except Robertson, who claims to have a direct 1-800 line to the Almighty. I would presume such a privilege. Sounds like, oh I don't know...blasphemy...God and I are tight, but c'mon!

Because I don't think you'll find many Americans agreeing with you.

I imagine not, but then again, it depends who you ask. The people who wrote the article above are Americans, and they seem to agree with me.

You see you ignore what the term ...

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You have announced that your judgment of what is pro American is direct revelation from God I take it.

HA! Wait...HAHAHAHA!!! (gasp!) HA!...(cough...cough...cough)...

Ok, I got that out of my system....

No one can be that arrogant, except Robertson, who claims to have a direct 1-800 line to the Almighty. I would presume such a privilege. Sounds like, oh I don't know...blasphemy...God and I are tight, but c'mon!

Because I don't think you'll find many Americans agreeing with you.

I imagine not, but then again, it depends who you ask. The people who wrote the article above are Americans, and they seem to agree with me.

You see you ignore what the term means. It does not mean that someone is anti-American just because they have different ideas on what will be best for the country and differing plans for how best to strengthen the country.

Define it then? I mean if it just boils down to differences, then that also would not make Wright anti-American now would it.

If your idea of what the word means was correct, which appears to be that one must be politically correct as judged by you, then the Prophets of the Old Testament hated Israel, because they did the same thing as Falwell and Robertson except that the two of them have done many more secular things for their country than history records of the Prophets!

Well, for one ancient Israel and the modern United States are not one and the same. Second, by your definition isn't what Wright said or did not inline with the biblical tradition, charging the fall of a nation to its inequities, or do you believe that waging aggressive war is the same as what two consenting adults do in their beds? Not to mention the logic behind it. One is logical, the other one is not. One is truthful, the other one is not.

As for secular behavior, I'm sure that lying, is as much biblical as it is secular.

Well now Yance,
Now that I've finished my spring cleaning for today and installed a brand new range hood (stainless steel and quiet I might add) lemme put my I'm a hell of a woman's two cent's worth in if I may.
I clipped this because I thought after years of the religious right cramming down our throats nonsense like this:

Homosexuals want to come into churches and disrupt church service and throw blood all around and try to give people AIDS and spit in the face of ministers.
Reverend Pat Robertson
The 700 Club, January 18, 1995

that is was just a tad hyprocritcal to try to stir a fuss over what Wright had to say. That doesn't mean I'm not a Hillary sup...

Well now Yance,
Now that I've finished my spring cleaning for today and installed a brand new range hood (stainless steel and quiet I might add) lemme put my I'm a hell of a woman's two cent's worth in if I may.
I clipped this because I thought after years of the religious right cramming down our throats nonsense like this:

Homosexuals want to come into churches and disrupt church service and throw blood all around and try to give people AIDS and spit in the face of ministers.
Reverend Pat Robertson
The 700 Club, January 18, 1995

that is was just a tad hyprocritcal to try to stir a fuss over what Wright had to say. That doesn't mean I'm not a Hillary supporter, because I am. I was just speaking to this issue.

So now we get to the heart of the question. That was not in any of the video clips I seen. I think some African-American would feel that Bill did dick them over. I'm in no position to opine on that particular score.

As for Jesus been black, he was semitic, so neither he was black or white, at least not as understood in the U.S. He was killed by the Romans, who where Latins, of Mediterranean/Caucasian persuasion. But then again that is blood libel of sorts, the way Jews have been accused for centuries of murdering Christ. Neither one is correct, and like I said I don't agree with that statement or some others.

But that makes him more or less anti-American than the other pastors? If anythi...

So now we get to the heart of the question. That was not in any of the video clips I seen. I think some African-American would feel that Bill did dick them over. I'm in no position to opine on that particular score.

As for Jesus been black, he was semitic, so neither he was black or white, at least not as understood in the U.S. He was killed by the Romans, who where Latins, of Mediterranean/Caucasian persuasion. But then again that is blood libel of sorts, the way Jews have been accused for centuries of murdering Christ. Neither one is correct, and like I said I don't agree with that statement or some others.

But that makes him more or less anti-American than the other pastors? If anything he fist right down their extremist alley. Obama stood and said what needed to be said, and Wright quit both his campaign and his church, I'll wait for Haggee to do the same.

Now if you have any links I could use, I would appreciate it.

Adam Curtis has a mastery of capturing the paranoid moments of human expression doesn't he?

Yes, he does and the background music underscores the cynical nature of game theory too. The movie sure does give one food for thought, eh? About politics and the nature of the freedom we have... or haven't. I need to watch it again too though. IMO, game theory is a little too cynical and relies too much on, that humans will always or mostly make rational choices. Which I don't think they do. People can't be summed up in numbers. The experiment where all 12 of the secretaries at Rand who behaved unselfishly (after 17 minutes, pt 1 already ) was a hint that altruism and trust and un...

Adam Curtis has a mastery of capturing the paranoid moments of human expression doesn't he?

Yes, he does and the background music underscores the cynical nature of game theory too. The movie sure does give one food for thought, eh? About politics and the nature of the freedom we have... or haven't. I need to watch it again too though. IMO, game theory is a little too cynical and relies too much on, that humans will always or mostly make rational choices. Which I don't think they do. People can't be summed up in numbers. The experiment where all 12 of the secretaries at Rand who behaved unselfishly (after 17 minutes, pt 1 already ) was a hint that altruism and trust and unselfishness are very much a part of human nature too. And thank heavens for that.