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9-21-2006 8:19 PM1085 views
invictus says:
ESA's Mars Express has obtained images of the Cydonia region, site of the famous 'Face on Mars.'
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9-22-2006 4:53 AM
RecordSage
invictus, what's your take on this? considering the fact that there's a face and a skull - this would make the most remarkable coincidence, in my view, so there must be something more to it... it's amazing to see these photos nevertheless. Thanks.
9-22-2006 10:46 AM
r2barrera
You can see what you want to see.
9-22-2006 11:03 AM
invictus
To be honest, RecordSage, in spite of all these "debunking" efforts of some scientist groups, I haven't been convinced yet about Cydonia features being hundred percent natural and not artificial. The anomaly is not just that "face-like" mountain and the "skull". There are many features that look really enigmatic at Cydonia plateu (and also at Kasei Valles, Aram Chaos etc.). Graham Hancock and Robert Bauval's book, "The Mars Mystery" had very convincing arguments and analysis about the morphology and "alignments" of Cydonia fe...
9-22-2006 2:40 PM
RecordSage
Thanks, invictus.
9-22-2006 6:05 PM
tpq62
Invictus,
I think this is the elvis-on-a-piece-of-toast phenomen, or duckies and horsies in the clouds. The martian face looks nothing like a face from a different angle or with different lighting. There are alot of weird looking features on Mars, as on Earth, but only the appropriately mysterious- or spooky-looking ones are singled out. Why are the happy, perky features ignored? For some context I clipped these.

It may well be artificial, but that photo just isn't evidence enough. Scientists are justified in their scepticism.
9-23-2006 10:33 AM
invictus
Actually, I don't care the "face-like" look of the feature that much, tpq62. The badge-like shape and strange morphology of it give me the sense of being artificial. Same for the geographical features at the west of it, with pretty smooth faces and their distribution at the region. Mars gives me the impression of a dead and desolated planet. Things we see today on its surface are the remnants of what the planet had been in distant past, I believe. I know this does not sound very "scientific" but according to my opinion, science is not only empirical but it should have a strong "speculative" part as well, in order to avoid dogmatism and be open-minded.
9-24-2006 12:40 AM
tpq62
science is not only empirical but it should have a strong "speculative"
part as well, in order to avoid dogmatism and be open-minded.
That's true I think. There is a speculative or imaginative aspect. In the classic high school formulation one tests hypotheses. It doesn't theoretically matter where the hypotheses come from (speculation, dreams even), as long as the testing is rigorous.

Unfortunately testing generally requires resources and funding. That's generally a zero-sum game--funding one research project means not funding another. So there has to be a triage of potential research--what is most likely within the paradigm to produce significant results. Spending a...
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