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7-14-2008 7:27 AM
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debbyski says:
I guess we could argue that there should be no parole for killers, and that would be a black and white argument. I'm sure black and white feels pretty damn good to the victim's families.
One thing I would like to say is I think some on CM feel as though clippers must agree 100 percent with the clip or we wouldn't clip the article. Not true, at least in my case and I welcome polite, concise, adult conversation on any clip. Opposing views are always welcome and can lead to meaningful dialog and in the spirit of that, I feel this clip asks the reader to dig deep on the concept of forgiveness in our society. Is that concept worth considering? The answer can be a very complex one with good arguments on both sides.
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7-14-2008 4:59 PM
kkcapricorn
20 years ago I worked in the prison system. The general opinion about killers was, if the inmate had no prior criminal history, and the killing was not premeditated, their recidivism rate was low.
7-14-2008 8:45 PM
Jorjor
The following appeared on Slate in an article on the exoneration of Jonbenet Ramsey's parents:

I was about to write that we haven't yet executed anyone exonerated
by DNA. But that's the wrong way to write the sentence. Here's the
right way: We haven't yet exonerated by DNA anyone we've executed. The
discovery comes after the act... The Ramseys had to wait 12 years, long enough
for JonBenet's mother to die while still under suspicion. But at least
they weren't in jail. The Innocence Project reports: "The average
length of time served by exonerees is 12 years. The total number of
years served is approximately 2,694."
What's real...
7-14-2008 8:58 PM
debbyski
@Jorjor:
You may find it interesting that Patsy Ramsey was a friend of my husband's cousin. She was a very beautiful woman many years ago, and I personally think there was a rush to judgment on the Ramsey's. However, the Ramsey's were in the fortunate position to have the funds to defend themselves.
Having said that, this subject is very complex, isn't it? I'd love to hear opposing views.
7-18-2008 10:27 PM
cabanaben
This one is a hard call, if I kill a person for breaking into my home, I have killed, if a soldier fires their weapon and death is a result, they have killed, if a politician orders a war, the outcome is death, they have killed; the bottom line is that if this woman can become a functioning part of society she should be watched closely and given a chance, if medical professionals say no then keep her behind bars. If one kills then one has to be able to come to terms and live with themselves and society, let us help our veterans.
7-18-2008 10:32 PM
cabanaben
Got off the subject, Patsy could not harm a flea, the ball was dropped from day one by the police by not doing a complete search of the residence.
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