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3-23-2009 10:58 AM
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As many as 45% of the homeless people in Washington, DC have cellphones, says this Post article.
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3-24-2009 1:15 PM
tanyamm
And they are just as entitled as anyone else to have them.
3-24-2009 1:37 PM
chestnut501
The difference between street people with cell phones and the homeless, is as great as the difference between night and day. These are not the real homeless, they are drug dealers. They have no address so they can work the system and avoid arrest. They spend their nights in crack houses or dope dens. They have cell phones to make drug deals. I find it totally irrespondsible for the government to refer to these people as homeless. It does a great injustice to people who actually are homeless by portraying them to be something they aren't and to have more than they do. Most real homeless people wouldn't even know how to use a cell phone let alone have one. It's unfortunate that the government ...
3-24-2009 4:57 PM
iulawboy
Wow Chestnut those are some sweeping generalizations that are extraordinarily inaccurate. "Most real homeless people wouldn't even know how to use a cell phone?" Are you kidding? Do you think that the true homeless, as you call them, of this country are an underclass that passes down street living generation to generation and have no contact with the rest of society? Let us remember these are people we are talking about, people with feelings and hopes not some nefarious other. Not all homeless with cell phones are dope dealers. A prepaid phone can be acquired inexpensively and the connection it provides can be invaluable. We are not talking about people with an expensive all inclusive...
3-24-2009 5:49 PM
chestnut501
iulawboy, I'm a former homeless person. Can you beat that?
3-24-2009 6:53 PM
chestnut501
iu, Now that I've established my hard earned credentials, I'll address your issues. Talk about sweeping generalizations....No, I absolutely do not believe that the homeless are underclass...why would you say that? Why would you say any of that? I bet you thought I was looking down my nose at the homeless and you jumped right in like a good little college grad who never got his shoes dirty to defend uz good people didn't you. You people with money who are gonna pretend like you're one of us, like you could possibly understand, HA! You have no idea. Do I think homeless people have no contact with the rest of society?? Now you're kidding ME right? Honey the rest of society goes far out of thei...
3-24-2009 9:26 PM
iulawboy
Chestnut --
I deserved some of your wrath I'll grant. You first post was provocative and I reacted.

Now, I understand that you have a perspective of the street that I don't, but your perspective can be just as skewed as mine. Homeless means just that, without a home. It does not mean without possessions. I do know people on the streets - good people who cannot afford to pay rent but do have some ability to acquire a little money (via various jobs and social support systems). While I don't know any homeless person who has a cell phone it is not outside my imagination that this is possible (based upon my interactions with the homeless people I know).
3-24-2009 11:43 PM
chestnut501
iulawboy, Please forgive me for my harshness. It comes from my frustration with a system that is broken. As for the cell phones, I can think of some instances where they would take priority over some of the most basic of needs. And of course there are always exceptions. My biggest concern is for the Mentally Ill. Once they become homeless, there is little hope for them. They will die on the street, very few from old age. They should be separated from the general population of homeless and processed through the system in a much more compassionate manner than how they are now being treated.
This has been an intense conversation about an intense subject. But I feel that the ice has been broke...
3-24-2009 11:54 PM
tanyamm
There are people living on the streets, they are homeless. They do have jobs but are still unable to afford a place to live. Some can afford a home but they for whatever reason choose to live on the street. Some are mentally ill some are not. Most of them get money from dumpster diving they sell some of the stuff and collect bottles and cans. Some of them do have money. Some of them do have cell phones and it's not to make drug deals because some of them are not druggies and drug dealers.
3-25-2009 12:48 AM
chestnut501
Thank you, I'm tickled pink that we are all in agreement on that. ( this illustrates my point as to why it is foolish to hide other peoples comments when engaged in a group disscussion )
3-25-2009 8:44 PM
iulawboy
Chestnut --
I fully hear your mental illness concerns. We have never recovered from the Reagan administration's decision to empty the mental hospitals and turn the mentally ill out onto the streets without much or any assistance.

I'm also grateful that we are willing to actually discuss this issue and not just flame each other. I'm genuinely interested in listening to other people perspectives and broaden my understanding of the world.
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