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8-12-2009 8:58 AM
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Antara says:
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8-12-2009 10:32 AM
disenchantedcitizen
Okay, let’s pick this apart, shall we?

America is as dumb as we think it is because our public school system is not geared toward preparing us for the technological marketplace, nor does it teach us to be critical thinkers. It teaches how to take tests.

Global warming is real, it just isn’t solely caused by mankind, although mankind has greatly added to it. With the high level of CO emissions how could you not add to it?

Of course people are placing a higher priority on the economy than on the environment, that doesn’t mean the environment is not still just as important.

Global warming is not being used as a pretext to advance socialism.
8-12-2009 12:59 PM
deadcowkid
I agree with disenchantedcitizen. Could not say it better.
8-12-2009 1:12 PM
n2sooners
Global warming is real, it just isn’t solely caused by mankind, although mankind has greatly added to it.
There is no proof of that, only speculation driven by people who stand to profit from global warming hysteria.
8-12-2009 1:32 PM
ColoradoRight
so the temperature of the planet in what-- 1951 --was perfect and we can never let the planet get warmer or colder than that.

Global Warming is hysteria that can be summed up by:

The government will tax you to change the weather

And some people are waking up to the fact that the government can't actually control the weather. But they can tax the crap out of you.
8-12-2009 3:26 PM
disenchantedcitizen
How does National Geographic, and scientists in general, stand to profit from global warming hysteria? http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/12/1206_041206_global_warming.html

Average temperatures have climbed 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit (0.8 degree Celsius) around the world since 1880, much of this in recent decades, according to NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies.

The rate of warming is increasing. The 20th century's last two decades were the hottest in 400 years and possibly the warmest for several millennia, according to a number of climate studies. And the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) reports that 11 of the past 12 years are among the doze...
8-12-2009 3:33 PM
disenchantedcitizen
I have seen both of you guys post some intelligent remarks on clipmarks, but this, I don’t know, I just don’t understand how you can ignore scientific facts. Can you please explain?
8-12-2009 7:57 PM
willhelm
Disenchanted, the scientific FACTS support the FACT the anthropogenic global warming is lunacy and the warming that has recently occurred is well within natural variations. Furthermore, the synchronicity with the rest of the solar system suggests that the warming which recently occurred on Earth also occurred on many of the other bodies in the Solar System, with NO cooling detected. Also, the increase in CO2 in the atmosphere is caused by warming (CO2 does not cause the warming), which is caused by solar irradiance and our current global obliquity. CO2 is only a small fraction of all green house gases. the most prevalent green house gas is ocean condensation. If you cut ALL human CO2 product...
8-12-2009 10:15 PM
disenchantedcitizen
Willhelm, the explanation you give for global warming being within natural variations is very sound. Thank-you for your input. I still don’t see National Geographic purposefully misleading us on this issue. I never fully bought into the whole thing being solely the result of mankind’s actions but I cannot help but see a correlation between the industrial revolution and the increase in atmospheric temperature.

Are you actually saying the green movement is filled with communists? I have to admit I am skeptical on that one. If you have something I can read on it, I will. Meanwhile, I am going to research it myself. Thanks again.
8-12-2009 10:26 PM
disenchantedcitizen
Okay, I found a book entitled “Set Up & Sold Out”, by Holly Swanson, about the Green Movement and its connection to the U.S. Communist Movement. I searched my local library but cannot find it so I’ll do some more research.

Excerpt from the book “The Greens liken their vision to what appeared to be the overnight collapse of the Soviet Union. The only difference between the collapse of the two superpowers will be the result. The Green goal for a massive transformation in America promises to establish communism.”

This is pretty scary stuff. Thanks for alerting me to this horror.
8-12-2009 10:36 PM
willhelm
I still don’t see National Geographic purposefully misleading us on this issue.
I don't see 50,000 scientists who signed the Oregon Petition putting their reputations on the line and misleading us on the issue. I don't see the prominent scientists who have been smeared and maligned for practicing real science and expressing their opinion in the face of political power misleading us. I don't see that the IPCC is even misleading us. They have said, "no human signature on the climate has been detected and the current warming could be natural" IPCC, 2001a pg 94. Don't give me picture magazines as your proof of global warming. Hell, don't even give me this crap about scientific ...
8-12-2009 10:38 PM
willhelm
Here are a few climate change skeptics I have clipped. There are hundreds more. I need to start clipping some more of them. I just lose interest after awhile.
8-13-2009 8:11 AM
Antara
I just lose interest after awhile.
I know there is an awful lot for you guys to grapple with at the moment, but I greatly appreciate your input on this matter and I know many others do too.

Keep fighting the good fight
8-13-2009 7:21 PM
willhelm
Thanks, Antara!
8-13-2009 10:26 PM
disenchantedcitizen
I appreciate your input as well. We all hear so much BS that it is difficult to wade through it all and not come out stinking.

Thanks, willhelm for your patience.
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