I stated ...

No true Christian could stand over this rubbish. Only an "eye for an eye" retributionist could spew out such bilge.

You replied...

2. I don't know about the writer, but I certainly never claimed to be Christian.

... making my point entirely. Yours, I suspect is the god of hate. The Christian god is of love and forgiveness. So chalk and cheese. For clarity, I've a Christian heart in an atheist mind. Your..

3. Retribution is the exact opposite of what the writer is talking about. It isn't about revenge -- it's about removing their ability to do it again.

... more than proves my point as to how screw up is your case. You make a case f...

I stated ...

No true Christian could stand over this rubbish. Only an "eye for an eye" retributionist could spew out such bilge.

You replied...

2. I don't know about the writer, but I certainly never claimed to be Christian.

... making my point entirely. Yours, I suspect is the god of hate. The Christian god is of love and forgiveness. So chalk and cheese. For clarity, I've a Christian heart in an atheist mind. Your..

3. Retribution is the exact opposite of what the writer is talking about. It isn't about revenge -- it's about removing their ability to do it again.

... more than proves my point as to how screw up is your case. You make a case for a compete genocide of the Gazians!!!

Those who, for instance, fire rockets at civilian targets while themselves masquerading as non-combatants are entitled to no consideration, as prisoners of war or otherwise. Those who use civilian "shields" are responsible for their fate

... as you advocate the compete elimination of all your perceived enemies, even POW. The civilians are to regarded as human shields and so in your mind, "are responsible for their fate". How can children be human shields? But you murders need to justify targeting children. What level of person would pen ...

3. Retribution is the exact opposite of what the writer is talking about. It isn't about revenge -- it's about removing their ability to do it again.

Your form of retribution ensures no survivors to merit revenge. Have you not realized that this thinking and the WMD-style lies has brought the US status down to be only rivalled by the Zionist satellite state? You are so full of it that you have no concept of how out of date your alien unchristian ideas are. Over 2,000 years out of date!

2. I don't know about the writer, but I certainly never claimed to be Christian.

... making my point entirely. Yours, I suspect is the god of hate. The
Christian god is of love and forgiveness. So chalk and cheese. For
clarity, I've a Christian heart in an atheist mind.

I am an atheist. Also, the phrase "an eye for an eye" comes from the Judeo-Christian Bible, in (to Christians) the Old Testament.

3. Retribution is the exact opposite of what the writer is
talking about. It isn't about revenge -- it's about removing their
ability to do it again.

... more than proves my point as to how screw up is your case. You make a case for a compet...

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2. I don't know about the writer, but I certainly never claimed to be Christian.

... making my point entirely. Yours, I suspect is the god of hate. The
Christian god is of love and forgiveness. So chalk and cheese. For
clarity, I've a Christian heart in an atheist mind.

I am an atheist. Also, the phrase "an eye for an eye" comes from the Judeo-Christian Bible, in (to Christians) the Old Testament.

3. Retribution is the exact opposite of what the writer is
talking about. It isn't about revenge -- it's about removing their
ability to do it again.

... more than proves my point as to how screw up is your case. You make a case for a compete genocide of the Gazians!!!

Wow, what a remarkable overreaction. Did you read the article? He compares what's needed here to what we did to Nazi Germany. Nobody's talking genocide -- but we didn't take the Beaches of Normandy and then say "let's talk" -- we marched on Berlin and stopped them cold. We tore the Nazi regime, kicking and screaming, out of that country, and the Germans (and the world) is better for it today.

Incidentally, Naziism, to this day, is illegal in Germany. It is illegal, to this day, to do the "Nazi salute" in Germany. We forbade them from having an army for years after WWII. We didn't slaughter the Germans, but we DID remove the threat, and we did NOT back down.

Those who, for instance, fire rockets at civilian targets while
themselves masquerading as non-combatants are entitled to no
consideration, as prisoners of war or otherwise. Those who use civilian
"shields" are responsible for their fate

... as you advocate the compete elimination of all your perceived
enemies, even POW.

Again, you're reading this very strangely. He's talking, specifically,
about the Geneva Conventions, which basically say: "Here are some rules
you must follow in war. If you follow these rules, you are protected
by these Conventions. If you do NOT follow these rules, then your
opponents are NOT required to follow them with YOU. Targeting
...

Those who, for instance, fire rockets at civilian targets while
themselves masquerading as non-combatants are entitled to no
consideration, as prisoners of war or otherwise. Those who use civilian
"shields" are responsible for their fate

... as you advocate the compete elimination of all your perceived
enemies, even POW.

Again, you're reading this very strangely. He's talking, specifically,
about the Geneva Conventions, which basically say: "Here are some rules
you must follow in war. If you follow these rules, you are protected
by these Conventions. If you do NOT follow these rules, then your
opponents are NOT required to follow them with YOU. Targeting
civilians and using human shields are tow things expressly forbidden in
the conventions -- thus Hamas fighters and similar are NOT protected --
at ALL -- by the Geneva Conventions.

The civilians are to regarded as human shields and
so in your mind, "are responsible for their fate". How can children be human shields? But you murders need to justify targeting children.

False statement. The "human shields" are not responsible for what happens to them -- the people who USE THEM AS SUCH are responsible. Again, using human shields is specifically a war crime under the GC, because like targeting civilians, it *deliberately* causes civilian deaths.

Israel does not target children, but it sometimes must target cowards who hide behind them.

Islamists, on the other hand, regularly target children and civilians when they fire random rockets in to residential areas, or when they, (for instance), blow up pizza parlors. Your're defending the scum who TARGET the civilians, and screaming "murder" at the people who shoot _back_. Nonsense.

Your form of retribution ensures no survivors to merit revenge.

Israel has nukes, among other things. If they really wanted to commit genocide, they could have done it already.

Hamas is not remotely interested

Where to start. WW2 was not won in Europe by the Normandy landings. The Soviets won the WW2 in Europe. The Normandy Landings were an attempt to get to Berlin before the Russians, that failed. Russian losses exceeded all other loses combined, so even if they didn't win militaryly, which they did, they certainly won it in blood.

So the question of stopping after the Landing is not apt here, and very child-like in concept. The Russians were dictating events then, not the US!

They wrapped up China in a week or two.

Every one of the many invaders of Russia has received a bloody nose. Their record of invading others is a pittance compared with the US record. Not since the...

Where to start. WW2 was not won in Europe by the Normandy landings. The Soviets won the WW2 in Europe. The Normandy Landings were an attempt to get to Berlin before the Russians, that failed. Russian losses exceeded all other loses combined, so even if they didn't win militaryly, which they did, they certainly won it in blood.

So the question of stopping after the Landing is not apt here, and very child-like in concept. The Russians were dictating events then, not the US!

They wrapped up China in a week or two.

Every one of the many invaders of Russia has received a bloody nose. Their record of invading others is a pittance compared with the US record. Not since the British Empire has another country such a record of interference in other's affairs. Monroe Doctrine? Dominio Effect? Banana Republic? CIA assassinations? Cuba?

The human shield Zionist myth.
This is another of those Zionist myths where you accuse your opponent of that with you are guilty.

Palestinian youths strapped to the front of IDF vehicles or hostages used in homes used as temporary quarters and prevent attack are known common practices by the Zionist bullies.

False allegations against freedom forces are part of the often repeated slanders by the Zionist media. A lie is always a lie no matter how long it takes for the truth to out. Attempt to follow an intellectual argument now rather than your normal emotional ranting. This is necessary has there NEVER has been any independent evidence of your false allegation. So I must not ...

The human shield Zionist myth.
This is another of those Zionist myths where you accuse your opponent of that with you are guilty.

Palestinian youths strapped to the front of IDF vehicles or hostages used in homes used as temporary quarters and prevent attack are known common practices by the Zionist bullies.

False allegations against freedom forces are part of the often repeated slanders by the Zionist media. A lie is always a lie no matter how long it takes for the truth to out. Attempt to follow an intellectual argument now rather than your normal emotional ranting. This is necessary has there NEVER has been any independent evidence of your false allegation. So I must not rely on addressing an intellectual mind as I must prove with no first-hand evidence.

ALL freedom force must rely on the support of the population they they attempt to free. Hearts and Minds. Remember Vietnam?! If the endangered the lives of the populous by omission or, your contention, deliberately then their days would be numbered. They are of the people. How or why would they cause clan members deaths?

I accept that my case depends on the reader having a working intellect along with a human heart that appreciates family or clan. A Zionist supporter hardly sees the Arabs as human so will have difficulty comprehending this, but don't hesitate to express you inability to follow me as I expect this is revolutionary thinking by your standards.

If you follow these rules, you are protected
by these Conventions. If you do NOT follow these rules, then your opponents are NOT required to follow them with YOU.

WRONG. [Could you make it clear when you are supposedly quoting your 'source' or your own efforts.] If the IDF executes Egyptian POW as it did in 1967, that never allows the opponents the option to execute Zionist prisoners. Anyone who puts forward your version of the Geneva Conventions has absolutely no credibility. None.

Targeting civilians and using human shields are tow things expressly forbidden in the conventions

I wonder. Given the fantasy version of the Conventions above, I'd w...

If you follow these rules, you are protected
by these Conventions. If you do NOT follow these rules, then your opponents are NOT required to follow them with YOU.

WRONG. [Could you make it clear when you are supposedly quoting your 'source' or your own efforts.] If the IDF executes Egyptian POW as it did in 1967, that never allows the opponents the option to execute Zionist prisoners. Anyone who puts forward your version of the Geneva Conventions has absolutely no credibility. None.

Targeting civilians and using human shields are tow things expressly forbidden in the conventions

I wonder. Given the fantasy version of the Conventions above, I'd wonder at the accuracy of this.

-- thus Hamas fighters and similar are NOT protected --at ALL -- by the Geneva Conventions.

Back to fantasy convention again. Anyone hear of this fantasist, David Warren? What rubbish. Do you regurgitate this bile without conscious though. Could you believe that this is true?

ALL freedom force must rely on the support of the population they they attempt to free. Hearts and Minds. Remember Vietnam?!

What does this have to do with anything? Israel isn't trying to "free" Palestine, they're trying to stop the Hamas rocket attacks. To again cite the WWII comparison, we did not win that war by going after the "hearts and minds" of the Nazis, nor did we have any desire to. After the fact, we required them to outlaw that pestilential philosophy, and enforced it at the point of a gun. And Germany is far better off today for our having done it.

No, not the systems fault. Yours, for ignoring the message that ClipMarks gives to those that chose to he...

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ALL freedom force must rely on the support of the population they they attempt to free. Hearts and Minds. Remember Vietnam?!

What does this have to do with anything? Israel isn't trying to "free" Palestine, they're trying to stop the Hamas rocket attacks. To again cite the WWII comparison, we did not win that war by going after the "hearts and minds" of the Nazis, nor did we have any desire to. After the fact, we required them to outlaw that pestilential philosophy, and enforced it at the point of a gun. And Germany is far better off today for our having done it.

No, not the systems fault. Yours, for ignoring the message that ClipMarks gives to those that chose to heed it.... Is it a common experience for you to blame the system for your own mistakes?

Again -- overreact much? I wasn't assigning blame -- just pointing out that the previous sentence had been accidentally cut off.

Attempt to follow an intellectual argument now rather than your normal emotional ranting.

I must not rely on addressing an intellectual mind.

A Zionist supporter hardly sees the Arabs as human so will have difficulty comprehending this, but don't hesitate to express you inability to follow me as I expect this is revolutionary thinking by your standards.

Wow what a jackass. All ad hominem all the time. Got it.

I'll briefly respond to that last sentence quoted -- "Hamas" does not equal "Arab", so trying to claim I'm accusing or attacking all Arabs is a flatly false premise.

I'm afraid you credibility with me is ZERO.

OhNo!

I realised after my last
post that I was wasting my time on a bullshitter of dubious intellect
and totally immature status.

Ad hominem.

Anyone who continues to maintain
that if one side kills the POW that the other side then has the right
to do the same according to your supposed reading of the Geneva
Conventions.

That's not a sentence; it's a noun. Try completing your thoughts, it helps.

The convention on all forum is to quote exactly your
contention, so put up or shut up.

It is *you* who attacked *me*, so you first. You have cited precisely zero sources. As you say, "Put up or shu...

I'm afraid you credibility with me is ZERO.

OhNo!

I realised after my last
post that I was wasting my time on a bullshitter of dubious intellect
and totally immature status.

Ad hominem.

Anyone who continues to maintain
that if one side kills the POW that the other side then has the right
to do the same according to your supposed reading of the Geneva
Conventions.

That's not a sentence; it's a noun. Try completing your thoughts, it helps.

The convention on all forum is to quote exactly your
contention, so put up or shut up.

It is *you* who attacked *me*, so you first. You have cited precisely zero sources. As you say, "Put up or shut up".

Consider withdrawing to
Crawford like your fuhrer.

a) I've never been, and b) ad hominem

Bush lied on a WMD style scale.

A claim so thoroughly debunked as to qualify you for a tinfoil hat. Unless you believe Bill Clinton was also lying about Saddam's WMDs?

I've ceased
believing you.

False statement. You've *never* believed me, and thus cannot have "ceased" to do so.

You are a total lightweight, wasting my time.

Right back atcha Babe.