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11-24-2008 3:11 PM
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invictus says:
"In the text you have the story of the Israelites coming from outside, and then besieging the Canaanite cities, destroying them and then becoming a nation in the land of Canaan. Whereas archaeology tells us something which is the opposite. According to archaeology, the rise of early Israel is an outcome of the collapse of Canaanite society, not the reason for that collapse."

* The principle of monotheism (the worship of a single deity), established first by the Jews and later to form the foundation for both Christianity and Islam, took much longer to take root than most people assume. In fact, the archaeological discovery of troves of household idols in ancient Canaanite towns and cities proves that the Israelites practiced polytheism long after they had been thought to have discarded the practice.
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11-25-2008 9:37 AM
Seosamh Dalzell
The principle of monotheism...,established first by the Jews....
Wasn't it Akhenaten (aka Pharaoh Amenhotep IV) who died ca. 1335 BC, who first established the concept of one god?
11-25-2008 9:50 AM
ratilfar
And the Old Testament has a lot of allusions to other divine beings which suggest that it was not as monotheistic as one might think.
11-25-2008 10:43 AM
invictus
Exactly. In many passages, the god of the Old Testament mentions other Near East supreme deities (like Baal, Anat) in statements that show he considers them as "rivals".

Seosamh, Akhenaten's religious operation was not actually a "monotheism" but rather a politicical move to eliminate the power and authority of Amen priests/temples (as well as the Heliopolis theocracy) in Egypt.
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11-25-2008 1:35 PM
citizenbfk
There is an expression: "You can't see the forest for all the trees," meaning that when you are all wrapped up in something you can see the 'bigger picture.'

The bigger picture is that the idea of a personal God has about as much reality as Santa Claus

Perhaps if these major religions based on these biblical traditions were forces for good, this might be somewhat rude to say; but instead we see the fact that these major religions and their various sects have throughout centuries used their subtle differences and distinctions as grounds for hate and harm.

Now, today, Global War against Islam is proposed.

Of course, individual people and groups --- in all religions and some with no specifi...
11-25-2008 2:42 PM
invictus
Note: The idea of One God was first suggested in Egypt: QUOTE: "uncompromising monotheism of Pharaoh Akhenaten (Amenhotep IV, 1364-1347 B.C.). "
"The idea of One God" is not terminologically the same thing as "monotheism", I must add. Akhenaten's premature attempt in 14th century BCE was substituting the sun god Athen (in its distorted form - the original was Amen-Ra) for all other deity hierarchies/pantheons that were widely worshipped in Egypt. If we take the "defining a one supreme being" idea as an indicator of monotheism, then we'd need to go further back than Akhenaten - possibly as far as 8th millennium BCE, where the one and only presentation of the universal almighty...
11-26-2008 2:16 PM
earnric
The sooner society rids itself of belief in these myths the better...

So much public policy is filtered through the absurd seve of religion ... you'd like 21 century sensibilities were enough. However, people continue to return to iron age barbarism in an effort to learn about morality.
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