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11-14-2007 8:32 AM473 views
AtlLiberal says:
This propaganda from the NCR is a prime example of religion's use of misdirection coupled with failed logic to try to prove to their "customers" that their spiel is legitimate. It has worked for roughly 2,000 years so they stick with the old methods because they are successful. One difference today is that we no longer have to accept this ruse as being grounded in reality but see it for what it is. A naked attempt to dupe a gullible populace that is willing to be lulled into a false sense of childish dependency.

The entire screed is brought to you because the NCR feels threatened by a movie! Two thousand years of history and they become unhinged because another piece of fiction challenges their piece of fiction. Of course the stakes are big. Make no mistake, the Church is big business and wants to protect its assets.
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11-14-2007 9:20 AM
ljsdesign
Maybe you should have named this one "Religious Comic Relief"

My favorite is the last one. Hmmm, crusades, witch hunts, hate crimes against gays. How long was there fighting in Ireland between the catholics and the protestants?
11-14-2007 9:32 AM
AtlLiberal
Maybe you should have named this one "Religious Comic Relief"
Ha! Maybe you're right. There is some art involved in choosing the right title for a clip. Too factual and it doesn't attract. Yet it still must remain within the realm of Clipmarks standards so too extreme is out. I'll keep trying!
11-14-2007 12:19 PM
Jorjor
I said this in another clipmark comment, but it applies here as well: People today misunderstand the nature of mythology. "Myth" is commonly understood to be a synonym for "lie", but it's actually a metaphor for a spiritual truth that explains a culture's origins and its place in the cosmos (as anyone who has read and understood Joseph Campbell knows).

Since atheism is a philosophy and not, properly, a belief system, it can't be said to have a mythology in the Campbellian sense. However, if it did, points 1, 2, 4 & 6 would definitely be part of it.
11-14-2007 12:50 PM
AtlLiberal
"Myth" is commonly understood to be a synonym for "lie"
I've run into this arguing with my sister. She bridles when I call her belief system (Fundamentalist Christian) a myth. When I use that terminology I am using the, as you say, Campbellian meaning of myth. It is not laudatory nor a condemnation but simply a description of the foundation of religion. But to a large segment it is viewed as disrespectful since they view Biblical events as historical rather than as metaphorical.
11-14-2007 1:01 PM
AtlLiberal
"Myth" is commonly understood to be a synonym for "lie", but it's
actually a metaphor for a spiritual truth that explains a culture's
origins and its place in the cosmos
I couldn't help but add that "myth" does have more than one meaning. I routinely use it to refer to lame excuses for logic as in the definition:

A fictitious story, person, or thing: “German artillery superiority on the Western Front was a myth” (Leon Wolff).
This doesn't refute your comment nor is it intended to. It merely points out the necessity of context when deriving the meaning of words.
11-15-2007 3:38 PM
masbury
Those with vested interests will indeed be scrambling. But many of us who try to follow Jesus feel like these things are not only no threat to us, but irrelevant to us.

If God is God, after all, a flash-in-the-pan movie will scarcely shake things up much. I welcome it.
11-15-2007 3:56 PM
Jorjor
I've seen this expressed elsewhere in other ways elsewhere - if a person feels threatened by another person's belief or lack of belief, it says more about that person's doubts about his own faith than it does about the faith of the other. This applies to other areas of life that society is feeling conflicted about as well. I think my great-great-multi-great uncle said it best: "It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God."
11-15-2007 4:11 PM
laceym
"It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God."
Alonzo Fyfe said:

“At least one god exists,” is a harmless proposition because it does not carry with it any moral implications. It has no implications at all about how one should act. Those implications come from the other false beliefs that some people add to the belief, “At least one god exists.”
For example, you cannot get directly from, “At least one god exists” to “homosexual acts shall be punishable by death.” You can’t get here without adding additional claims – claims that some people who believe, “At least one god exists” can consistently and coherently deny.
On the other hand, the belie...
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