 debbyski says: "But please slow down for a mo and allow me to point out that while Sarah Palin is most certainly a woman (and therefore in my mind has the chance to be the most fuckable Vice-President ever) she is also anti-choice, pro-gun, pro big oil, opposes stem-cell research, wants to teach creationism in schools, also has ZERO FOREIGN POLICY EXPERTISE and is currently the first term governor of Alaska - a state which has a population smaller than the cast of Lost." Bad photoshop. I do not much care for her, but the misogynistic way in which she has been being attacked is a disgrace. It's not the gender issue, it's the ability to lead. Ah, come on! You gotta admit the pic is hot! And I don't care for her either, none of her "family values". I think I tried to speak to the misogyny in which she is sooooo willing to be treated with in the clip, so I don't feel a bit sorry for her at all. She is a willing participant all the way to the bank baby and she'll ride that particular horse spread eagle; you can bet on it. The misogynistic way she is being attacked? Even willhelm said he was going to be interested in the VP debate because when Biden highlights her total lack of experience in international affairs he will appear like a bully because............ she is a woman. The party that did the biggest disservice to women, and always has, is the republican party. I am a firm believer that HOTNESS must be a paramount criteria in the selection of a public servant! Finally, someone is addressing the concerns of my demographic! I haven't been this excited since I organized the campaign to draft Fawn Hall as the 1991 GOP candidate for President. Actually, now that she's off crack, I still think she'd make a hot President! However, I wonder what Cindy McCain thinks about this choice...  Actually, come to think of it, Fawn Hall may actually have more foreign policy experience than Mrs. Palin. And those document-shredding skills come in handy in the VPs office these days! http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/08/29/palin_pick_leaves_bruised_feel.html The worst of it was here, really nasty comments about her and even attacking her autistic baby, like this: "Good for her husband now that she can't bear anymore children that aren't retarded. Now he can find a woman with some more years left in the tank while she sits up in Washington dripping sour milk on her blouse." That was one of the milder ones! Though I think some of the comments were coming from idiots just trying to make their opponents look bad, posing as Democrats or something when they are not. It's been things like this that I have never seen thrown at any man running for office that is disgraceful. A little more info I took from the web; So, McCain's chosen Alaska's 44 year-old Governor Sarah Palin -- forced childbirth activist, creationist and former beauty queen -- to be his running mate. Here's what folks are saying ... Booman gives us some good background on Palin. She smoked pot but didn't like it. She rides snowmobiles and does like it. http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2008/8/29/11597/4437 Elizabeth Benjamin notes the governer's lack of experience and asks whether she's going to be the next Dan Quayle. http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2008/08/palin-quayle.html Kos, noting that she's a dedicated creationist -- evolution's just a theory, you know -- points out... While part of me is pleased because Mc's pick only validates the fact that as Barack said, '. . .he doesn't get it'(i.e. thinking that HC's disgruntled women voters would sell their souls and vote for him because he chose a woman VP??!!!), I'm disappointed to hear about a female governor who is so anti-women's health. I know Governor Palin is anti-environment because I have written numerous letters and e-mails re: the shooting of wolves in AK, ANWR, polar bears. . . and NEVER even received an acknowledgement. So I guess we also know she has few social graces. Maybe that's OK in the wilds of AK...did they even think that it could possibly play out in DC????? And what about age/experience???... The Republican president of the Alaska State Senate, Lyda Green said of Palin: "She's not prepared to be governor. How can she be prepared to be vice president or president?" Also, I think its funny, a lot of people say they don't "know" Obama. Actually, I presume this is evangelical code, meaning he isn't a fundamentalist fellow traveler in the Christian Right. But still, the idea that Obama is dangerous because his public record on various issues isn't adequately documented, what on earth are they going to say about Palin? I mean, I must admit, when I heard McCain chose "Palin" as his running mate, I thought he meant Michael Palin, from Monty Python!  But don't worry, Evangelicals already "know her heart" just the same way Bush said he knew Valdimir Putin's heart, so what could go wrong? Sahara, in looking at the posts on that article, I'm convinced that the most venemous of those posts were probably put up by conservatives trying to vilify liberals by saying outrageous things. It certainly isn't the mainstream liberal reaction against her. And in case you are wondering, yes, I also presume a certain number of insane and offensive conservative posts are plants by liberals trying to make conservatives look bad. Especially when they appear so bizarre and offensive that they could only be engineered to offend by someone who doesn't really understand the point of view they are pretending to hold. And in case you are wondering, yes, I also presume a certain number of insane and offensive conservative posts are plants by liberals trying to make conservatives look bad.Yeah, the comments were way out there! In my opinion, the fact that such diabolical political animals exist does make a very persuasive argument against gun control, if you know what I mean... sad She is a real MILF, explains all the kids. Republicans should be happy about that, if they stopped been so sexually self-repressed. Is that what has you down Napster? At least if McCain ever feels the urge to get to know his employees better (like Clinton did, from time to time) he won't have to settle for a stalker intern. I mean nobody would impeach him for that. Probably get a parade or two! I'm removing this clip from the public area of the site...i really don't think the title is acceptable for the public area. That has to be a photoshop-ed pic right? Right? If not, damn, she was/is hot! Yeah, that was such a politically informed opinion wasn't it? <eromlige shakes head> I'm such a man. I'm removing this clip from the public area of the site...i really don't think the title is acceptable for the public area.Only took 4 hours. And none of the content (let alone the horrible title) was fit for public. Not even with the small crowd here. But I do think it shows a side of the skirt chasing John McCain that conservatives willingly choose to be ignorant about. His first wife, swim wear model. After her car wreck that left her four inches shorter and with a limp she wasn't beautiful enough so McCain began whoring around behind her back. He finally settled on a 29 year old rodeo queen loaded with money. Just this last year, McCain's handlers had to step in between him and a lobbyist to prevent an affair that was developing. Now he picks, as his VP choice, someone who has the thinnest of resumes, but it is widely held she is good looking. It all ads up in my book. This photo is apparently a fake/photoshop job....but i guess you all know that. I'm removing this clip from the public area of the site...i really don't think the title is acceptable for the public area.Come on Egoldstein! I can't believe you said that. What exactly is unacceptable about it? The word PRO-fuckable??? It's just a word. Would you rather I * it like everyone else on CM? Would that be more acceptable? Is this your decision or have you had complaints about it? I thought freedom of speech meant being able to say that word. If some find it offensive, then that's their problem and of course it's your decision, but I think it's kinda lame to say the word FUCK would be enough to remove the title from the public arena and I ha... OK, Egoldstein, I changed it just for you sweetie and only for you. Is it all better now? Well, we aren't in England, so I suppose it is. Sorry sugar . . . Now let's kiss and make up. *smoochie* You know I have a good heart don't cha big guy  Is ok to put back in the public arena now??? Although, honnestly, I do fail to see the point in censoring language like the word "fuck." Any 7 year old in America knows and uses this word, even if they know better than to say it at the dinner table. Disfiguring it with * or $ or % is not any better, because you are still using the word, and everyone knows exactly what it means - you are just using an unorthodox spelling. So in that sense, typing "F#$%" simply erodes respect for proper spelling. I could start typing words any way I want! Such as: I TH@#K Censorship is IDE$L#G!C@**Y dangerous. On the other hand, if it wasn't the word fuck, then perhaps it was the ideas proposed. For instance the notion that a candidate for presiden... And by the way, Ratilfar, I believe that there were actually two lists. One was John McCain's top five choices for running mate: 1. Joe Lieberman 2. Tim Pawlenty 3. General David Patreaus 4. Bobby Jindal 5. Mitt Romney. The other was John McCain's top five Republican M.I.L.F. list: 1. Sarah Palin 2. Nancy Regan 3. Paula Stern (deceased) 4. Laura Bush 5. Mitt Romney. (In his case the m stands for Mormon, not Mother) Since Mitt Romney was on both lists, the aides got them confused and accidentally announced the wrong one. And before anyone gets all offended, remember that my crass sexual humor is nothing compared to that of the master himself - John McCain! And before anyone gets all offended, remember that my crass sexual humor is nothing compared to that of the master himself - John McCain!I plead guilty too Oh, and a correction, that is Paula Kissinger, nee Stern... LMFAO Thanks for the giggle, Deb!! Oh yeah, let's not forget that the oft used LMFAO= Laughing My Fucking Ass Off Why thank you baby . . . long time no see girl! I've missed ya! I think what Egoldstein was saying is. The Republicans have paid the medias to be bias in their behalf. And they are making a good offer to do the same for CM. You bring up an excellent point Cptenaud. And I can't help wondering . . . could that be true? I asked you, Eric, point blank why you objected to that word. It's not like it hasn't been said on CM many times before with no objections whatsoever. Rat asked you if there were new policies that we don't know about concerning language. I think it's a fair question. Because you haven't addressed why the word is suddenly offensive I am only left to wonder why. Should other words be included too, and is this ban only for me? Am I allowed to say ROTFLMFAO? Am I allowed to say d***? Am I allowed to say sh**? I am seriously asking if there are new policies regarding language and to please... I don't know the answers to all your questions. What i know is: (1) the standards apply to everyone equally; (2) the standards are based on discretion and judgment more than a set of definable criteria or computer generated algorithms; (3) a clip title that says someone is "fuckable" is not acceptable in my opinion. Overall i'd say that things are pretty lenient and open on Clipmarks. An incredible diversity of personalities and viewpoints are melded together to create a source of content that is both enlightening and entertaining. Every so often i feel the need to intervene in order to maintain a culture that i'm proud of and that enables the site to remain so open. I'll continue to ... Thank you for responding Eric. Of course we disagree on the context in which that word was used and that does make for interesting discussion doesn't it? IMHO I disagree that the word was more so objectionable as perhaps me stating the obvious. I won't fault myself for that and if you want to find that not acceptable, then it's ultimately your call. debbyski, I loved the form letter you got from Eric, the Brown Shirts finally got to him or maybe the problem is a liberal , white, smart female with her own views, scares the Brown Shirts, they are used to ordering their women around, afraid for them to think, they might wake up and realize what they have been living with, maybe corporate is ordering him around, who knows. You know what Nappy? I find this insanely odd that you would save this clip to your own clips yet make this statement: And none of the content (let alone the horrible title) was fit for public. Not even with the small crowd here.If you really want to live by your personal morals I cannot see any reason why you would save my clip unless your particular judgement is clouded by the fact that you do resent a woman with opinions (well liberal opinions) and you have some great victory dance as you referred to in this commment: Only took 4 hours.Well, that is just sad. I think you are a hypocrite for saying that you were offended by the clip content and then saving it to your personal clips. I find it hilarious that the conservative bozos on this forum find this offensive but sit for hours upon hours drooling over the news women at FOX. The requirements seem to call for D-cups and model stature in addition to their superior domestic and foreign policy analytical skills. Hypocrites to the core. You know what Nappy? I find this insanely odd that you would save this clip to your own clips yet make this statement: And not only are you a hypocrite Nappy; you are a LIAR and a terrible one at that. For that, you are banned from commenting on any of my clips. Good riddence. I am a liar? Because I call you out on your own attempt to mislabel me? I think not. You can do better than that, surely. It's all here for everyone to see. Glad I have screenshots. I call them as I see them Nappy. And you are a horrible one at that. And you can email anything you like to any US senator. Your attempts to curtail my freedom of speech are about as lame as you once saying something along the lines of what kind of damage a high-power rifle can do to my head. You are a disgusting human being who likes to pick on women. So go ahead, pick away, email away all you like. Two can play that game. debbyski, I remember when you were threatened by the arm band wearing Brown Shirt Whiner, it was a M-60 he referred to; freedom of speech is going to HE double hockey sticks, let him whine to the senator, all politicians are sociopaths anyway, let him whine, if he wants to deal with a man, which whiney will not, oh let me pick on a woman so I can feel like a whiney male Homosapian. I have saved to disc some of Napsters Whining rants. And I also know he is a fraud. Like one other troll I exposed, one PKronfield. The Napster claimed he was the inventor of some web based knowledge. Just recently he claimed he was working with the auto industry on a fuel efficient car. And he threatened me with a Kabar. That is a military throwing knife for those who were never military. And if you piss him off badly. He comes back with childish remarks like. " If I needed to hear from a fart blah blah blah" He is just a clown to be laughed at. I find it interesting that it's the self-styped conservatives who are the first to try to take away the rights upon which this country was founded. I don't really understand what Napster intends to accomplish - as if a US senator has time to deal with such a ridiculous complaint. Does he expect the FBI to pay debbyski a call? As Dasvid Peel said on his third album, "Fuck is not a dirty word." Overuse has diminished its impact so much that it has pretty much been reduced to use as a mere intensive. Someone, perhaps Reinhold Aman (though I could be mistaken about that) once wrote that the word is so devalued that it's possible to say something like, "She's so fuckiing chaste she should be... Sorry about the typo. It should have been "David Peel". I have a hand tremor due to a past injury that acts up from time to time, and it's been worse than usual lately. Here is Nappy's latest clip: http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/4AE26A24-D682-411D-B945-DC57F63D0DDB/ First of all let me address why I called Nappy a liar. He wants me to believe that he contacted a US Senator's office and that Senator contacted him back on a holiday weekend, on a Sunday, to tell Nappy, of all people, that he was disgusted with this particular clip. I'm gonna say right now that I refuse to be a forum for trolls who try my patience. Life is way too short for that baby. What is important to me is to get my message across and my message is for societal change and folks that message has gotten people killed. I have had "followers" whose user pics ... for the positive things that CM has done for me. I started out here because I had no voice in this small state for my political feelings. I disliked GWB from the day he stole office and when it wasn't "popular" to dislike him. I've been in the closet as a bisexual woman my whole life. Imagine that something as simple as CM gave me the courage to come out of that closet. Thank you Eric, you have changed my life for the better. Because of CM, I actually have met people who have made a positive difference in my life. Thank you Eric. Because of CM, I use my mind every day. Thank you Eric. Because of CM and of all the beautiful people I have been priviledged to meet, I am a better person. THANK YOU ERIC. Nappy and his fellow trolls are all very sick. It is like I said in some other clip. Their brain is different. It has something to do with their frontal lobes. There was a clip about this also. And this is something I heard today from the right wing nut jobs. We knew about Palins daughter before McCain offered her the job. We thought it was noble of her to disclose this.So now it is noble to have a daughter with a child out of wed lock. So one more great thing about Palin. She is noble when it comes to her own kid. But I have this feeling it would be different if it was someone else s kid. Say Obama or Biden. Back to the clip title: "She's not bad looking. She looks like one of those women in the Van Halen videos who takes off her glasses, shakes out her hair, and then all of a sudden, she's in high heels and a bikini. All of a sudden, I am FOR drilling in Alaska." --Jimmy Kimmel Although its a ways back in the discussion, I have to ask: Cptenaud: Did Nappster threaten you with a Kabar in real life or online? Because it sounds like you mean on line, and I have to admit, threatening a person you don't know with a knife over the internet is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. And is our military seriously using throwing knives? That's really sad on a profound level. I guess when our choice of weapons is determined by geeks in a cos-play convention, its no wonder we don't stand a chance against hardened Mujaheddin in Torra Borra. This is why ClipMarx is bullshit...buy SnagIt and you won't have to deal with this pathetic crap. You already have Snagit. Take a hike. It's a fascinating internet phenomenon how so many people devote so much time and energy to something they profess to hate. If sparlingphoto had ever expressed one original, legitimate, articulate or well reasoned opinion on clipmarks, maybe he would have been surprised to find it's not such a bad place after all. But he didn't. So back to the John Birch Society with you! If you get some manners and an education and then I'll be fascinated to hear you explain to me just how wrong I am. "vpilf" is too hard to pronounce. |
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