Spiritual Fraud -- Superstition and the Gullible -- a confession

The American dream? One has a certain degree of control over that by one's own actions. I wouldn't call that a strange thing in which to believe.

Now, Santa Clause? No control over that whatsoever.

9-17-2007 11:05 AM

Most life cannot be controlled by ones action's, that theory sucks ass.
Success in this world is built from lies desiete and blagging your way to the top. The honest people stay where they are, hoping "one day".
Life we have now with money, belief, etc. etc... is more destructive than a large asteroid destined for earth or a servere natrual disaster.
Not one of us even understands what were doing here, we are always looking for an answer.

Well everyone, the answer has always been there, we all see most of the time, the answer to life is to just live it. you all see the animals living just moving around suriving. it's the same for all living creatures living in the circle of life.

But sinc...

9-17-2007 11:43 AM

"Most life cannot be controlled by ones action's.."

True, but to a certain extent we can control our "own" actions and thereby plod along a desired path. In that sense, we can be "cause" in our own lives, or be the effect of it.

To "just live it" seems to be one of those choices. The alternative is to not engage, to be at the mercy of the wind, to assume irresponsibility.

9-17-2007 11:55 AM

Sorry what i mean is, the choices are given and are of very few in the type of life we have to live to fit into the world.
In short i would rather much live my life like a lion or any animal that dosn't try to control it's on species.
Rather than go to a super market to buy food, i would rather hunt it/collect it.
Rather than work for a company i'd rather work for myself.
Livning off the food i grow.
I would be healthier, i may not have healthcare but natrual death would suit me rather than being killed by industry or other people telling me what to do.
rather than a supermarket how bout farms where people pick the food from fresh, spare food should shipped off to people who need it rather than get wasted.

9-17-2007 11:56 AM

The way we live life at the moment is just a quicker way of destoying the world.

9-17-2007 1:32 PM

Sorry what i mean is, the choices are given and are of very few in the type of life we have to live to fit into the world.

I would agree. I see it as an infinite range of choices within a very narrow and limited field of possibilities. Like being born rich compared to being born sub-Saharan poor.

The field of choices for the poor is extremely limited compared to the person born rich. They have an infinite range of actions within a very narrow field of possibilities.

Rather than go to a super market to buy food, i would rather hunt it/collect it. Rather than work for a company i'd rather work for myself. Livning off the food i grow.

You certainly have those c...

9-17-2007 1:47 PM

In the UK this choice just isn't so. All matter of land is owned by the counil of privatley therefore just going out to do what i said would be in breach of tresspassing by law.
i can't afford to travel to a country where all land hasnt been claimed/owned by someone. I could claim squatters rights to somewhere, but i have to be lucky enough to not come out or wander for 5 years.
The only reason i use a computer, is because at work i have too and anything to do with entertainment costs money. If the world was to lose all of it's money i would gladley give up everything i own to share with the world.

9-17-2007 4:38 PM

Hey AcesLucky, are you there? I have a favor to ask of you.

Could you go to this link that sozoman's gives here: (http://www.proofthatgodexists.org) and run through the logic it gives for his proof of God. I just don't have the energy or will to shut him down right now. I think you might do a better job of doing it as well. I briefly went to this link and I saw several flaws in their thinking.

If you decide to do this for me, post your response to their proof of god here: (Clip Title) Essential Physics

http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/2B43467E-46D1-4B6F-8D76-A5893007826E/

This is the last comment he last posted to me:

EZSparky,

This site proves there is a God. Please check it out let me k...

9-17-2007 5:04 PM

mike law -

If you don't mind the cold, Canada or Alaska might work for you.

I think to only true control that really matters is that control which each person has to decide how they are going to view and feel about any outward influence being applied to them. More specifically, making the decision to not let any outward force affect how you choose the think or feel. A person can take away all outward freedoms but they can never take away your freedom to choose how you choose the think. Only you can choose the give away this freedom

9-17-2007 5:06 PM

sorry:
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9-17-2007 5:09 PM

Ignoring outward information, not letting outward influences to provide you information to help you make decisions, is the behavior of the fool.

9-17-2007 6:44 PM

@ezsparky

Okay; went there. Here's what i posted.

Hi Sozo,

I went through your site, and I think you are right. The logic is clean, sharp, and unambiguous leading to the conclusion that morality is as absolute as the laws of mathematics. All one needs is personal honesty to see it. The problem is admitting it! Wouldn't you agree?

I'm assuming you're an honest person even to yourself. How else could you so easily understand the absoluteness of morality in proving god's existence. Brilliant idea!

The example that you gave of child molestation is easy to see. There is NO time when it's right. Ever! Therefore there is an ABSOLUTE morality. Easy, honest, and simp...

9-17-2007 7:02 PM