 swampfoxz says: They are as guilty as any male would be in their position.The judge is irresponsible and should be disbarred. Whoo! hold on there Swampfoxz - when I was 16 and (maybe) had a thing for a teacher - I would so have jumped at the chance of 'getting together', and if I had I would have considered myself lucky - not abused, or taken advantage of But then I live in UK where there age of consent is 16, so rewording (above) "If I'd been 14 had a thing for a 20 year old teacher" - hmmm maybe ... 14 and 18 ... Point I'm trying to make is that its a lot of boys fantasy - if it actually happens - is it wrong ?! 24 year old male teacher has a thing for his 15 year old female students.Viewed in a whole different light right? Right or wrong,the point is that it is illegal.The defense cannot be that "she was asking for it or that he was asking for it".My point is one of equality under the law. Do I find these laws stupid.Yes.Should we be more lenient towards female pedophiles? Absolutely not. It is assumed that at that age, as the term implies, the child is incapable of consenting. End of story. I'm with swampy  Me too. Children experiment with sex. And by that I mean there is NO age limit. There was a clip recently about kindergartens kids being allowed to masturbate. Consider two teenagers 15 and 14, experimenting. When they get to 16 and 15 - by UK law the 16 year old can consent the 15 year old cannot, so the 16 year old is raping the 15 year old. Even if they have had a relationship for sometime. Rather than absolutes based on age, why not a sliding scale based on the age gap - 10 years old (experimenting) with 10 years olds ... 14 years olds (experimenting) with 13-15 year olds. ... Then if a 16 year old (boy or girl) is with someone more then (say) 2 years older then them - that's a crime. And I ... Legally? Morally? Really? I cannot see or use the previous comments while myself commenting. I thought it might have been easier to comment. As it is, it's much worse. Is the spellchecker working? The law is a lot like the Catholic Church's rules, holding up a standard that the best priest might not attain. This does not faze the Italians or Europeans. Getting a horney boy to keep his trap shut would, IMO, the major problem. That and increasing his expectations sooner. Do your laws allow for the reality that youngsters are maturing earlier and know more. The judge's sexism is not atypical. His attitude reflects the prejudices of the court, the legislature, and. I would guess, most people. When Mary K. Letourneau was brought before Judge Linda Lau the first time around, she was sentenced to serve six months in county jail and enroll in a three-year sexual deviancy treatment program. A man guilty of the same offense would have received a sentence of several years. swampfoxz I'm not sure I understand. You say that the laws are stupid, but we should not be more lenient toward female pedofiles. Isn't the purpose of the forum here to question the law? I believe that is what we are exploring --is the law reasonable. You seem to use the circular logic that we shouldn't question the human beings who made a law because they made a law. But humans are fallible and they disagree--that's why it's legal to have an open container of beer in the car while you drive in the state of Texas, but it is illegal in many other states. That's why the age of consent being 16 in England makes what happened legal there, but not in other parts of the world. I believe ... Again my point is "equality" under the law.Now,stuff like registering as a sex offender when a woman is the predator gives people pause.Why? Because he was a 16 year old male who was horny? Again my point is "equality" under the law.Does this not ignore realities? It's very difficult if not impossible for a horny female to rape an unwilling male. Second is the consequences. There are few for a 'raped' male while many for a raped female. How then can it be judged equal under the law? Unless the law is an ass! That said, female teachers in school, or anyone in a position of authority should be held to greater account than a female and younger male not in such a legal circumstance.I query if it's power or taking advantage of the situation. It's easier judged in a work situation. If one has power over another than male or females, it's wrong. But banning all relationship at work may also be wrong. It's more likely that it's an experienced or older male pupil as against a younger virgin pupil. What male hasn't fantasied about a teacher or nurse? I think the problem is a blubber mouth male willing to spill the beans. Is it the event itself or the fallout from it being known about that is the problem. Swampfoxz asked, "Are women who sleep with consenting teenage boys guilty of abusing them?" Answer: No more or less than men who sleep with consenting teenage females.. If the question is about whether or not men and women who seduce minors should be treated equally under the law, the answer is yes. Forcible rape is not at issue here. In my view, the arguments of righthand and yanceducat are rooted in sexist stereotypes. The opinion that there are few consequences for a raped male and many for a raped female is nothing short of reprehensible. Also the idea that society can have one standard for female teachers and another for women in general is ludicrous. The law is an ass but it isn't for lack if inconsistency. "That said, female teachers in school, or anyone in a position of authority should be held to greater account than a female and younger male not in such a legal circumstance." .... yanceducat Dear yanceducat, You'd have a tough time defending the statement above in a court of law.. That said, We're not that far apart.. It was righthand who made the irrelevant detour into forcible rape. Sexism is a hydra.. It need not be deliberate as, indeed, most of it is not. Where you may see differences worthy of note in this case, I do not. I've no more piety regarding violence suffered by women than violence suffered by men.. In this respect, I'm in the extreme minority. |
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