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5-19-2006 1:53 PM
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Rifkala says:
Its not enough that our pubic hair has to be a slave to fashion but somethings gone terribly wrong when people can't accept the uniqueness of possibly the most private, profound and primitive parts of their body.

what the hell is this about?
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5-19-2006 1:58 PM
djkraz
So many things i could say... So many things i shouldn't!
5-19-2006 1:58 PM
adamc
I guess I could understand if you had a child and were no longer gaining satisfaction from sex...

Vaginoplasty returns the vagina to “pre-pregnancy” state and recreates sexual excitement and pleasure for the woman (and the man)!
...but I tend to agree with you that all of this unnatural manipulation of your body is unsettling.
5-19-2006 2:02 PM
ericw
djkraz said:

So many things i could say... So many things i shouldn't!
return true;
5-19-2006 2:04 PM
Draxiis
I don't have a vagina so I'll never know, but I've seen a few that made me think "If I had one that looked like that I'd check into what modern science could do to help".
5-19-2006 2:09 PM
Rifkala
LOL.....you're all sooo full of shit. You just want a tight snatch and I guess at the end of the day...I can't really blame you.

As a friend of mine once said concerning vagina: Ya seen one, you've seen one worse.
5-19-2006 2:09 PM
Geekette
Well my Va-J-J says this: Hell f**king no!

I've never gone under the knife and that is not necessary. I'm not exactly planning on popping out multiple bambinos to the point where things get so overworked anyway. "Butterfly" shape? Who the hell walks around with her head stuck in there checking out the shape?!
5-19-2006 2:13 PM
Rifkala
WORD UP Geekette...and anyway...its not neccesary. One can totally excersize those muscles the way they can any other. Kegels girls Kegels!

You never check the old girl out though? Really? I'm personally fascinated with mine.


5-19-2006 2:14 PM
Geekette
Adam:
I guess I could understand if you had a child and were no longer gaining satisfaction from sex...
I believe it would take multiple, not just one child would not do the type of slackness damage being indicated. And that's if the multiple came without insufficient time-gaps in-between... With sufficient pacing & Kegel exercises, etc. would also restore things to pre-preggers state.
5-19-2006 2:16 PM
Rifkala
I know a woman who has had eight children. Though her husband says it doesn't exactly look the same, in terms of sensation its as good as new.

Besides they stich you up after each kid, often tighter then you were before...from what I have heard.
5-19-2006 2:17 PM
Geekette
Jinx star jinx on the kegel Rifkala! I don't particularly give extra attention there, but then again, I'm fascinated with all of me so I just give equal attention everywhere & hi-five myself in the mirror when done. LOL!
5-19-2006 2:21 PM
Draxiis
LOL.....you're all sooo full of shit.
A bit broad, that statement. That was precisely what I was tactfully trying to get at. Yes, a tight cooze is better, from my perspective. But pretty is important, too (you know, the old "males tend to go for the visual" and all that crap). That being said, if a female goes under the knife to "repair" her snatch, she's trying to please no one but herself because no matter how much "worse" her kitty is than that of the next woman's, some guy out there will like it just fine (if for no other reason than he doesn't get any from anywhere else).
5-19-2006 2:31 PM
Rifkala
Amen my brothers and sisters Amen!!!
5-19-2006 2:34 PM
MyStuff
nothing wrong with getting your dinner served on new china now and then...
5-19-2006 3:19 PM
Rifkala
People...as tempting as it may be I still have several concerns and:

1 : Why is all the pressure being placed on the woman? There are also procedures, SURGICAL procedures available to men to enlarge their penis's to gaurentee a tighter fit...but do you really relish the idea of someone hacking into your pipe and swelling it?

2: Could it be that nature has a plan and that if your penis isn't being pleasured and a particular person perhaps it shouldn't be pursued?

3: I'M NOT DOING IT!!!!
5-19-2006 3:24 PM
BigBadWolf
I dunno... I've dated some really good looking women whom, once undressed, I wanted to put a chastity belt on myself. I mean some of them are just as ugly as they smell. Sorry for the offensive manner in which I said that but I couldn't think of a more eloquent way at this moment.

HOWEVER, getting surgery on your "coochy", as my babe KJ calls it, just doesn't sound right. That's why God made darkness anyway.
5-19-2006 3:26 PM
adamc
That's why God made darkness anyway.
I knew it! LOL
5-19-2006 3:55 PM
kristenjo
Holy hell, if you're gonna quote me, do it right. It's
COOCH. Besides, I think cosmetic surgery for your cooch is
retarded. Like Rifkala pointed out, they stitch you up of you
want after you have a kid; it's called the daddy stitch. And yes,
it's mostly for the guys. But I can't see myself ever getting it
done without being in pain and in a hospital already from
childbirth. Seriously, Kegels are not that hard and very
effective.

And let me just say, I've seen enough dicks to know that they're not
created equal--a bad circumcision can make one just as painful to put
in your mouth as an asymmetrical cooch.

Yes, I've looked at mine.
5-19-2006 3:57 PM
kristenjo
Besides, it's a well known fact that a woman's body is a work of art
and a man's is like a jeep--for gettin' around. You guys have it
good already.
5-19-2006 4:00 PM
Draxiis
bbw - pitch black can't hide ugly!

Rifkala - in response:

1. To answer your last question: hell no! As to the first: hypocritical bs. It's the same deal with a couple that doesn't want children. Usually the first surgical alternative that's brought up is tubal ligation (by the male, of course) but vasectomies work just as well.

2. Yes, if the cooch's not a good fit, then that's one you should quit.

3. As good a statement of self-confidence as any I've ever heard!
5-19-2006 4:06 PM
BigBadWolf
Oh lord... so I added a Y to your damn word. What's the problem?

As for #2, to be fair, if iit fits fine in the beginning but your wife has 3 or 4 kids, well, it's a different matter wouldn't you say?

I think this clip was more towards external appearance than fitment issues.

In all honesty, the COOCH wasn't the most thought out design for attrractiveness to begin with. Although I will admit I've seen a few that are definite turn ons but they are not the norm.

And KJ, thanks for that insight into your sex life. :o
5-19-2006 4:08 PM
kristenjo
Draxiis, I disagree that vasectomy is the first surgical alternative that's brought up. Most couples I know, the first thing brought up was for her, and most of those procedures are just wrong (guys want their girl to look good--listen, all you in favor of vaginoplasty--but when it comes right down to it, they don't want to take the cuts for her). No matter how small the incision, it still leaves a scar, and even a partial historectomy causes hormonal problems--including weight gain, mood swings, etc. etc. Vasectomy does not.
5-19-2006 4:09 PM
djkraz
Yes, but no matter what they tell you, a Vasectomy is insanely painful!!!
5-19-2006 4:12 PM
BigBadWolf
Yes it is Derek! And that pain lasts a lot longer than most of us would like.
5-19-2006 4:13 PM
kristenjo
Oh lord, as opposed to permanent scarring and ongoing hormonal imbalances? Yeah, you have it soooo bad! We have all that pain plus other problems. Suck it up, soldiers!

Not only that, how painful do you think childbirth is, huh?
5-19-2006 4:17 PM
djkraz
It depends if you go all natural or not... My wife has had 5 kids now, and except for the first one when it took her a few minutes to decide she wanted an epideral, she didn't feel a damn thing...
Now the visectomy on the other hand, I compare it to getting kicked by an nfl punter in the family jewels every day for about 2 weeks....
5-19-2006 4:19 PM
RecordSage
It's impossible to 'think' how painful it is, because we don't experience it and the story goes that guys couldn't take it... so kudos to my wife and all of the women for going through the process!

I do want to add that because of this horrific pain - a guy invented the epidural process... in other words we do what we can to try and help
5-19-2006 4:19 PM
adamc
All I know is vaginoplasty OR vasectomy cannot be as painful as having your testicles ripped off
5-19-2006 4:19 PM
djkraz
Just realized that may have sounded like I don't appreciate what my wife went through. I do appreciate it, and I love her dearly for it, but unless you count emotional craziness as pain, she didn't feel much...
5-19-2006 4:20 PM
BigBadWolf
Yea I gotta go along with Adam there. Testicle Rippitis is known to be extremely painful and lasting.
5-19-2006 4:21 PM
kristenjo
You don't think she had afterbirth pains? Or how bout that week of contractions leading up to the birth? Or the NINE MONTHS of carrying all that weight on the front of you. It's not just the hard labor.

And I wasn't just talking about the pain of childbirth; we have surgery just like you do (only with a hospital stay) when we have our reproductive organs "fixed."
5-19-2006 4:22 PM
kristenjo
As for testicle ripping...maybe you guys will be a little more careful what you say and do around us.
5-19-2006 4:27 PM
djkraz
I will give you the nine months of carrying a baby around, though she is an incredibly strong woman, and it takes a lot more than that to bring her down, but the afterbirth pains, that's what they give you the vikadin for. Oh yeah, the labor thing was not an issue for her either, i think she was born to have baby's. None of the labor's lasted more than 6 hours, and during all of them she bitched about how she wanted to be home doing something cause she couldn't stand just laying there.

Anyway, I know it's normally very painful, and I'm not trying to downplay it, but you women also have no clue what it's like to get kicked in the nads... I don't think an epideral would help at all in that case!
5-19-2006 4:32 PM
kristenjo
That's my point, Derek. You can't say either way.

Yeah, it takes more than childbirth to bring most women down, because we're stronger than men in that respect. You guys just assume your pain is worse or somehow more important because some of us don't make a huge deal out of the fact that we're hurting and we get drugs for our 6-36 hours of labor--we just accept it, it happens. You can take drugs, too, and it's not like two years after you get a vasectomy we're sayin', "Honey, don't you wanna have another one?"
5-19-2006 4:33 PM
kristenjo
5-19-2006 4:39 PM
djkraz
yeah, yeah...

How do we know your not just assuming your pain is worse?? How do you know that we don't make a big deal out of our pain unless it's 10 times worse than yours??
5-19-2006 4:41 PM
BigBadWolf
I see that a life with you KJ will require my having a layer of armor surgically implanted in my baby making facilities. This is going to make those romantic evenings a little less romantic.
5-19-2006 4:43 PM
Geekette
Djkraz:
How do we know your not just assuming your pain is worse?? How do you know that we don't make a big deal out of our pain unless it's 10 times worse than yours??
This here is why I always said if I was granted a wish or two, one would be for men to go through childbirth. Then there'd be no arguments.
5-19-2006 4:45 PM
djkraz
Goes both ways geekette. I too wish you could have some nads for a day! lol
5-19-2006 4:45 PM
BigBadWolf
Yea I am glad Derek said that and not me. (damn bro you do like to live dangerously!)
5-19-2006 4:47 PM
djkraz
I know, I bring it on myself.. For some reason, I truely love playing devil's advocate... I just hope I don't make anybody to upset along the way!
5-19-2006 4:47 PM
kristenjo
LOL, I never said our pain was worse. I was just saying it can't possibly be trivial in comparison to yours, and that we can never know for sure the exact relationship. But the fact that we can't know leaves neither of us (especially guys who are known for it) room to think ours is worse! Good lord that was way more difficult than it should've been.
5-19-2006 4:47 PM
kristenjo
Oh no, I'm not upset *sharpens machete*
5-19-2006 4:48 PM
djkraz
lol, man i love this place!!!
5-19-2006 4:49 PM
BigBadWolf
We could play a game... I kick you in the box and you kick me in the testicles and we'll see who is in more pain.

Uhhh, wait.... hmmmm that didn't work out the way I wanted it to.
5-19-2006 4:49 PM
Rifkala
Our pain is worse. I'll clip the research but its a well known fact that women do have higher thresholds for pain.

To the women: Ever notice how infantile they all become when faced with not much more then the common cold..imagine them squeezing a head through their asshole. Which I think is a fairer comparison then having your balls ripped off. Where by the way did that come from?

5-19-2006 4:51 PM
djkraz
the angel on one shoulder says: no djkraz, don't do it, keep your mouth shut before you get to deep...

the devil on the other side is already satisfied so i think i'm good to go now...
5-19-2006 4:52 PM
kristenjo
Oh Rifkala, I'm so glad you're back. All the things I wanted to say, but I was too deep in conflict to bring it up without seeming cliche.

YES! They're huge wimps. I have an older brother who has a higher threshold for pain than I do, and a cold makes him a driveling heap.

And yeah, we do have twice as many nerve endings (roughly) as guys do in the baby-making areas.
5-19-2006 4:53 PM
kristenjo
Derek, why do your shoulder angel and devil call you by your clipmarks username?
5-19-2006 4:53 PM
BigBadWolf
Of course we are huge wimps when sick... it's the only time we can get any mercy from you ice cub.... er, women.
5-19-2006 4:57 PM
Rifkala
It's not mercy, its sadomasochism...we like watching you suffer. It affirms our own superiority
5-19-2006 4:57 PM
djkraz
kristenjo, lol, i was wondering that myself. maybe i should have a talk with them about that...

bbw, totally agree, and yes you women can have that one.

Rifkala, don't forget that a very natural part of childbirth is for your "cooch " to stretch to unimaginable proportions and thereby alleviating much of the pain that would be there if a man were to have a head come out his ass.... sorry, couldn't let that one slide by...
5-19-2006 4:59 PM
kristenjo
to Wolf: WHAT. EVER.

to Rif: A little bit, yeah.

to Derek: it stretches, but it almost always rips because it's so soft.
5-19-2006 5:00 PM
djkraz
Yes, i know, not saying it's not painful, just saying the ass comparison is not fare as it would rip much more...
5-19-2006 5:00 PM
kristenjo
So what?! You don't have as many nerve endings in your asshole!
5-19-2006 5:01 PM
Draxiis
Draxiis, I disagree that vasectomy is the first surgical alternative that's brought up.
Kristenjo - you misinterpreted, that's the LAST thing a guy will bring up in that type of conversation. It's usually something along the lines of "Just get your tubes tied. How big a deal is that?"

In all honesty, the COOCH wasn't the most thought out design for
attrractiveness to begin with. Although I will admit I've seen a few
that are definite turn ons but they are not the norm.
I must disagree. Cooches, in all there infinite variety, are, for the most part, one of nature's most beautiful structures. For those that don't fit into that category, there's always the surgery....
5-19-2006 5:01 PM
BigBadWolf
Don't get me wrong, I love your soft and squishy parts but what I could do with a little less of is the superior tude.
5-19-2006 5:02 PM
djkraz
man, i give up, she's all yours bbw!
5-19-2006 5:03 PM
Rifkala
I didn't say it was identitical, I said it was similiar and a more apt comparison then having your nut sack ripped off.

I'm actually going to stick to the asshole analogy and raise you a prostate..meaning that though the asshole is not as elastic as the vagina, it is accustomed to accomodating exists AND...the prostate as some of you should know is responsible for a great deal of male climax..not sure exactly where I am going with this actually...what are we talking about again?
5-19-2006 5:04 PM
kristenjo
LOL. I wondered how long it would take for you guys to break.
5-19-2006 5:05 PM
djkraz
I'm weak.. I bow to you kristen!
5-19-2006 5:06 PM
kristenjo
Damn straight.
5-19-2006 5:07 PM
kristenjo
Hey, bow to Rif, too, I couldn't have done it without her (two of us against how many of you?...that's right, on your knees!)
5-19-2006 5:12 PM
kristenjo
btw, Wolf, brilliant idea for comparing pain....how bout I kick you first?...
5-19-2006 5:17 PM
Rifkala
You took the words right out of my mouth Kristen...they don't need to bow ...our brilliance is self evident
5-19-2006 5:19 PM
kristenjo
Agreed.
5-19-2006 6:02 PM
BigBadWolf
Oh lord... here's a perfect example of female 'tude out of control.

Not that this has anything to do with the original topic (hey, Rif went off on a tangent) but you women get even with us. You marry us and then we get to deal with that monthly thing, general crabiness and eventually the changes.

So the short term suffering you put up with is nothing to the long term we deal with.

But.... I still love and respect you KJ.
5-19-2006 6:17 PM
Geekette
Shoot, how come I missed the best part of the partay?

Djkraz:
I just hope I don't make anybody to upset along the way!
Nah, why would we of the high pain threshold get upset? Besides, I was too busy having fun poking my Derek voodoo doll. Now as per Rifkala's suggestion, I'm about to make it pop big things out of small places... Its the least I can do to catch up
5-19-2006 6:43 PM
kristenjo
Awesome, Geekette...your contribution is much appreciated.

Wolf, honey, do you seriously think PMS is any less of a nuissance to us? We take it out on you because we feel like shit and you're nearby. I generally apologize or warn ahead of time (like with my finals week bitchiness), unlike most girls. You know that!
5-19-2006 6:50 PM
BigBadWolf
Yea I will give you credit for the warning and admittance babe. Most women don't offer either and simply continue to blame us for thier problems.
5-19-2006 6:52 PM
kristenjo
Yeah, I don't understand that (this is part of the reason I don't like most girls). I mean it's just as frustrating for me as it is for any guy, so why wouldn't I sympathize at least in that respect?
5-19-2006 6:53 PM
kristenjo
And who said I don't blame you for my problems?!
5-19-2006 7:22 PM
bookchick49
One for the guys (and the gals if you're interested):
Back to the topic of "Camel Toes"

http://www.bofunk.com/video/320/camel_toe.html

5-19-2006 7:28 PM
BigBadWolf
Ahahahahaah! That was funny as hell!

And... they called it "Coochy"

Ahahahahaha
5-19-2006 8:12 PM
kristenjo
Soooo mature, Wolf.

I laughed way too hard at that video. But seriously, what is with women and that? Not only is it not really that attractive (Victoria's Secret even goes to the trouble to airbrush out all sign of the girls even HAVING lips), IT'S FREAKIN' UNCOMFORTABLE! Especially with jeans...
5-19-2006 8:19 PM
Geekette
Some of those examples in the video were just Nast. Plus, like you said, its uncomfortable. I mean, what is the point with walking around with a frontal wedgie? I would totally support ticketing such displays on grounds of visual obscenity or something.
5-19-2006 8:25 PM
BigBadWolf
Yea I gotta say... camel toe just isn't my bag for the most part. Again, once in a great while I see one that looks kinda sexy but they are rare cuz you have to have the perfect "coochy" for it.

5-19-2006 8:33 PM
Geekette
Mm-hmm. As FannyPack put it, "The only lips I wanna see are those that sing"!
5-19-2006 8:36 PM
kristenjo
Coochy sounds like something you say to a baby when you're tickling it (Coochy coochy coo!), especially if you happen to be a cartoon character, since they like to work off stereotypes.
5-19-2006 8:37 PM
kristenjo
And yeah, Geekette, anyone caught in Clipmarkia with a frontal wedgie will be ticketed.
5-19-2006 8:41 PM
Geekette
Talking of cartoons, here's a subtler take: FannyPack's CamelToe video:
watch inline on YouTube
Or save to your desktop and view.
5-19-2006 11:27 PM
bookchick49
Maybe if their pants weren't so tight, it wouldn't cause a need for surgical fluff.
5-20-2006 2:15 AM
kristenjo
*sigh* I'm gonna have that dang fannypack song stuck in my head for days. Thanks a lot, Geekette!!

It was funny, though...
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