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7-17-2008 10:08 AM339 views
papananook says:
Afghanistan--ATTENTION, CITIZENS--TO SAVE YOU WE MUST KILL YOU...GET USED TO IT, THERE'S MORE COMING!!! Try ducking...
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7-17-2008 12:09 PM
Rioting Drone
Hazards of indifference my friend. In a declared war zone you need to choose a fracking side or get the hell out.
7-17-2008 12:36 PM
ratilfar
They live there, their side is their own. They have no choice on who bombs them.
7-17-2008 12:41 PM
Rioting Drone
You always have a choice. If you do not want to live under one oppressive regime, you join the opposing oppressive regime. Locality of habitation has nothing to do with wanting to end the fighting sooner than later.

If all free minded Iraqis and Afghans stood up for themselves, one side would win sooner than the other instead of letting this crap drag on.
7-17-2008 12:53 PM
ratilfar
Again, they just live in an house, the house gets bombed. Not their choice. War doesn't work that way, it is not a video game.
7-17-2008 1:07 PM
Rioting Drone
I know how war works my friend. If I live in a war zone. And to the contrary, stand-off warfare and air strikes have more in common with video games than you think I used to work with cruise missiles for a living. Scary shite.

I understand what your saying about them being bystanders, but they do have a choice. If you know there are people who oppose the invading nation who wantonly drops bombs in neighborhoods (we don't have the greatest track record), It would behoove you to either take care of the threat to your livelyhood yourself, or steer clear.

Choose to kill and/or die for your safety and the others around you, or you may just become another "accident" when the rolling thunder come...
7-17-2008 1:09 PM
Rioting Drone
Bah.. another typo strikes again.

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If I live in a war zone.
7-17-2008 6:55 PM
papananook
Your argument, RD, is insane--just as insane as the US Air Force's collateral damage policty... who don't give shit about who they kill, despite the spokespersons crocodile tears.
To tell the people you are supposed to be liberating that their lives don't mean anything when near a "suspected insurgent" is beyond unconscionable...Where are they supposed to go? OH, right like the Iraqis, who fled their own country and are now selling their daughters in prostitution just to survive. WE, THE USA, BROUGHT THIS MADNESS FROM THE AIR AND IT'S FUCKING EVIL AND INSANE. These atrocities are the "choice" made by the Pentagon, not the Afghani citizens! You're a really cold fucking person to say they have a choice.
7-17-2008 10:46 PM
Rioting Drone
My argument is not insane. I come from a long line of men and women who have picked up the rifle in the defense of my homeland and the defense of others. I personally have sacrificed many years so that many here in this community can use the freedoms they cherish.

Don't lecture me on the decisions someone can and cannot make. My home gets turned into a war zone, I choose one side, or I do the refuge thing. You always have a choice, the easy ones tend to lead to death in a combat zone, where the hard ones tend to lead to the death of a few, so that the rest may live on and possibly win and/or remove themselves from the situation.

You always have a choice. Hike 100 miles to a safer area. Go ...
7-18-2008 1:28 AM
vk2yoc
Rioting Drone, you're a perfect example of why much of the World hates America, you're not only sub zero, you're sub human!
7-18-2008 9:05 AM
papananook
Definition of insane: Doing the same thing over and over with the same result.
War equals death and destruction and is by it's very nature od civilian casualties--insane and so are you, RD...I pity you, man. But I also despise you, because you went to war and never learned a fuckin' thing but base survival, it seems...altho I suspect it's all a facade. I aslo wonder if your nickname, Rioting Drone, isn't indicative of the wasteland of your soul.
7-18-2008 3:43 PM
Rioting Drone
You assume the soul exists, and there is nothing past life other than base survival.

War is base survival first Mr. Smarty pants. When your being shot at, first thing to come to mind is find cover. Second thing then is to return fire, provide cover fire, and outflank the SOB. Each one built to ensure survival. The people become less important as your life now is in danger.

Death and destruction are natural states within the human race. Those who do not embrace it, are destroyed by it. This is what people should learn from war. There are no tragedies, and the wasted life simply replaced at our geometric breeding rate. We are becoming to many for such a small planet, and there isn't anythin...
7-18-2008 4:01 PM
LoPhatt
It's not your fault drone man, you were programed to feel that way. But now and forever you are stuck with your feelings. You have been conditioned. I have seen many of my friends come back just like you never to be the same again. The real problem lies down the road for you. Yo will have psychological problems later in life and will attribute to some syndrome or another, but it will be the final result of your military conditioning.
7-18-2008 5:13 PM
papananook
One sick bastid.
7-19-2008 1:46 AM
Rioting Drone
I actually take that as a compliment Pap! I do admit that I was conditioned; however, the conditioning is more than pull trigger, sight in, pull trigger. Some of the conditioning is geared to prevent psychological disorders, unfortunately for some, the human mind is a fragile thing that does not take to tinkering real well. Just be glad that there are icy bastards like me stateside, we are the type that will risk our lives to save you (directly) even when we decamp to the civil sector, even if it means we may die for you not to get killed, raped, mauled, robed, ect. ad nosuem.
7-19-2008 2:13 AM
vk2yoc
Delusions of Grandeur...
7-19-2008 2:33 AM
Rioting Drone
Protection of those who are unable (or unwilling) to defend themselves is delusions of grandeur? (scoff)
7-19-2008 2:41 AM
willhelm
I wonder if egoldstein is interested in civil discourse? I doubt it.

It's fine for papananook to rant with vile and hurtful language, ratilfar to troll, boobyrutan to stalk, jklugman to lie and misrepresent other's comments, for bartender to call people wife-beaters, for debbyski's vile hatred and baseless accusations, etc, etc.. But point out the ignorance of the left and call it what it is, then you've stepped over the line. Nice integrity, there, eg.
7-19-2008 3:28 AM
abailart
The death of 'these people' is a function of the 'geometric breeding rate' whereby a 'wasted life' is 'simply replaced'?
And as a corrective to our 'becoming to (sic) many for such a small planet' we must 'prey upon each others (sic) throats'? Such 'power of the will and human mind' is the sign of a pure 'nationalism'?
7-19-2008 3:39 AM
willhelm
Reading too much Malthus, Gore, Welles and Lovelock. Delusions abound and the seeds are taking root.
7-19-2008 7:17 AM
LoPhatt
Time will tell who is deluded, but in some cases all that is needed is a mirror. <>
7-19-2008 8:51 AM
ratilfar
I can already tell. All the symptoms are there.
7-19-2008 9:00 AM
papananook
This is another one of those threads i enjoy so much...all the wackjob nutcases like the Riot Drone and Willie the Wanker commenting about egoldstein(why?) are here, to defend the death and destruction of innocent people by the most corrupt and incompetent buncha criminals ever to run this country into the ground. RD, you are one of the most sick people ever to grace my Clips,,,gee, thanks and when you get time away from the asylum--stop "protecting" me from all those anti-'Murrikanan terr'ists attacking me (????!!!) Willie---WTF are you doing here anyway, and why are you frantically interjecting yer nonsense in this thread? You at the Limbaugh Kool Aid again?
7-19-2008 9:59 AM
ratilfar
Willie=Troll

7-19-2008 3:08 PM
Rioting Drone
You delusion Pap is the thought that this country was run by stalwart men of morals. This country is founded on treachery, smuggling, and prostitution. Every man in office has looked to take advantage of it in some fashion (including the "great" presidents).

Stop protecting you? Sorry, can't do that. Terrorism, crime, your own fucking government, the list keeps going. Call it delusions. Call it Don Quixotism. Call it insanity.

My neighbors love me. I am friendly, I leave them well enough alone. They all know they can count on me to lend a hand when they need it (and many have). If I am such a monster, why do I care about these complete strangers? Why do I feel I must help them in times of...
7-19-2008 11:31 PM
vk2yoc
Why?... It sounds like you need to justify your own right to exist.
7-20-2008 1:13 AM
Rioting Drone
Survival instinct. That's my right to exist. Whats yours? Is it something fruity like your a good person? Or maybe your god ordains it? Or you think its your right because you simply breath air like the rest of the flesh bags.

My survival is defended by my observant nature and mild paranoia. With the assistance physical conditioning and marksmanship, there are few things within "civil" society that pose a threat (discounting freak accidents).
7-20-2008 3:57 AM
vk2yoc
I don't feel the need to justify my existence, nor make "fruity" comments about how good I am, as you have in your comments.
If your "survival" is your only justification for your life, then it must be a sad and uninteresting one, despite what you have said above.
I think it's about time you affirmed some corollaries to your comments.(so we know where you are coming from)
Were you in the armed forces of the US, if so which one?
Did you see combat, close combat?
Please expand on your comment "fellow students from Dubai"
Reason I ask is that several of your comments are at odds with each other, and as such, not at all clear.


7-20-2008 8:32 AM
papananook
RD, you obviously have contempt for people--"you think its your right because you simply breath air like the rest of the flesh bags...."--despite all your horseshit about protecting us and bein' a great neighbor...so which is it. Making the Afganis (Are they just flesh bags?) out to be stupid because they get bombed by the USA, Or-- Mr. Wonderful, who protects his neighbor by killing some other paranoid perceived threat and is so "helpful". Why don't you just check in to the psych ward at the VA, please, and get the help YOU need. I mean that with all seriousness and concern for your rather sick mind. It's a choice you oughtta make, brother. Get help.
7-20-2008 11:20 AM
LoPhatt
Pappy,
He is beyond help, His treatment would be like putting spaghetti back in the box after it has been cooked. He will die like that or be eaten with sauce.
7-20-2008 2:44 PM
Rioting Drone
Hey. Why don't you all go play a game of hide and go f*ck yourselves. You have no clue how the real world works. I have seen and experienced more than the lot of you. You may think your high and mighty for being peaceful people, but you are the ones who are preyed upon by those who can take advantage.

USN. Close Combat in defense of naval assets while over seas. Standoff warfare in regards to taking care of, management and launch of cruise missiles.

Currently a college student, I have friends (from school exchange program) that are from all over the globe. I get along with them fabulously because my eyes are open about the way things work. I learn the other perspectives from foreign minds ...
7-21-2008 1:39 AM
vk2yoc
RD, you're just full of bluff and bluster, and that's about all.
7-21-2008 9:05 AM
LoPhatt
Actually He is a product, with content, all packaged up and released on society. Kind of like a jack in the box with access to weapons. Turn the crank for a surprise.
7-21-2008 9:27 AM
papananook
For the first time I blocked someone from commenting here--I'm just sick of this kind of person poisoning our planet with their total disregard for human life. I'm more saddened than angry but I don't want to listen to his drivel of violence. At least Willie has some modicum of intelligence and doesn't advocate robotic behavior like the Rioting Drone--B'bye, RD!
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