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Nice tags. As for this story? I think I'm sick. Just another case of theists telling atheists (and in this case, even apathetic/weak theists!) to <i>literally</i> sit down and shut up. And they say they are being persecuted. That is exactly what they do in the movie theaters in some third world countries where you cannot sit down while your national anthem is playing. Fascism anyone? Well said, Wadard. Dontcha just luv "democracy", II mean enforced patriotism Ah yes, can the mass rallies and the torch-lit parades be far behind. That is exactly what they do in the movie theaters in some third world countries where you cannot sit down while your national anthem is playing.And in this case, it isn't even the national anthem. It's simply a historical religious song. Well then they would have to arrest me, because if I want to go, I will go, everybody else be damned. What is wrong with showing a little respect to other peoples beliefs? They are not trying to change yours. Just shut up and get on with life I personally don't like the 'Charge or Wave' but I don't complain about it or tell everyone I see that they are making me endure it. I just let it happen and move on. I have to get this out while I'm thinking about it. You don't really need to read it but it must be written: What is it with today's world that make people so spiteful? I mean, How come people have to push their beliefs on everyone around them no matter what they are? My parents taught me that everyone hears the beat of a different drummer and that it is ok for that to happen. If I was atheist and someone was honoring their God I would let them. If I was Christian and a Muslim wanted to pray I would let them. Let me put it this way; My friends and I were out collecting cans to get enough money to go to the movies. My gay friend had a falling out with his lover and was down in the dumps. I'm... Sometimes the strongest argument is to say nothing. What is wrong with showing a little respect to other peoples beliefs?Nothing at all wrong, except when my right to not participate is mandated to be worthy of arrest, and I could be forcibly restrained from leaving. One that leads to the other. If people were respectful in the first place there would be no need to force it on them. You are not worthy of arrest unless you disrespect the tribal tradition. See it any way you wish- I see it as self-absorbed disrespect. Obviously more people than not also see it as disrespect. Perhaps if more people were more respectful there would be no need to enforce respect. As for YOUR right not to participate, Are you so little you cannot stay still for the duration of one song? Are you so touchy of your beliefs that you cannot bear to be seen standing quietly in a crowd? Does the song cause for you to doubt your own beliefs? I don't understand why it should be an issue? It all seems so petty. But why should it be enforced? What kind of authoritarian view is that? Its not disrespectful at all. I mean if I am with my kid and he has to go the bathroom, by God he is going to the bathroom. This is meant as a way to enforce on others things that are unenforceable, like "respect", I have a right to stay or leave, you can either let me do that or kick me out of the ballpark, but you can't hold me prisoner in my seat, thats not only wrong but more to the point, illegal. Its called False Imprisonment: FALSE IMPRISONMENT - Any intentional detention of the person of I don't think that this is because of people taking their kids to the bathroom. I think it was brought on because people are rude and it is the only way to keep order. I still don't understand why people are so afraid of standing quietly for the duration of one song? Are people so damn worried about their freedoms that they misconstrue this into being an attack on their liberty? WTF, Its a non-issue. It's part of the experience so go with it and get on with the fun! Its like seat belts- wear them, just in case... No it is not a "non-issue". Its not about been afraid of been quite, you simple can't enforce that. You can ask someone to leave, but you can force me to be quite or be seated. What if it they where showing a Michael Moore film in the jumbotron and you wanted to leave and an off-duty cop told you you could not? Besides this is a ballpark not a movie theater, you go there to talk, drink beer and hang out with friends and family, not be told you can go anywhere until a song finishes. Well its a non-issue for me and I am what matters to me. I'm sorry that people have such a hard time that they can't enjoy themselves. God, The injustices of life are just so staggering. If they showed a michael moore film I would either endure it or stop going. Obviously people would want to see it if it was mandatory. Just because I didn't wouldn't mean that I should throw things at the screen and start yelling to take it down. If I did I hope that I would be restrained and told to sit down and shut up. If I was then I would have the right to choose to go back or not. If I chose to go back I imagine that I would be watched to see if I got rude. If enough people didn't go back they would ... Well its a non-issue for me and I am what matters to me.And therein lies the crux of the problem. I'm being rude and insensitive when I speak out about being restrained to hear a song (the fact that it's religious just adds fuel to the fire), but if you like the song and it's your own religion, than it's a "non-issue." Screw the rest of us. I still don't understand why people are so afraid of standing quietly for the duration of one song?Why exactly would I be mandated to stand up for ANY song? It's a sign of "respect" that goes beyond simply being quiet. What's so important about this song? Why do I have to give it special credence? It's NOT the national anthem. |
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