You, really believe that is going to happen? Man.

So, admittedly I don't know a lot about Black Liberation Theology, and some banty it about but don't say what it is or where we might read about it, so I proceed to educate myself some.

Well, I found this website, by a white divinity professor at Wake Forest University (a Baptist University). He holds degrees from Wake Forest, Masters of Divinity from Duke, and a Ph.D. in Church History from Duke.

Check out his class lecture materials on Black Liberation Theology.

Some of his own words.

Many whites, myself included, can be put off by advocates of a black t...

You, really believe that is going to happen? Man.

So, admittedly I don't know a lot about Black Liberation Theology, and some banty it about but don't say what it is or where we might read about it, so I proceed to educate myself some.

Well, I found this website, by a white divinity professor at Wake Forest University (a Baptist University). He holds degrees from Wake Forest, Masters of Divinity from Duke, and a Ph.D. in Church History from Duke.

Check out his class lecture materials on Black Liberation Theology.

Some of his own words.

Many whites, myself included, can be put off by advocates of a black theology of liberation. We would much prefer the approach of Martin Luther King, Jr. because his approach was the least threatening to the white power structure, and to our own understanding of ourselves. Many whites identified with him precisely because he did not challenge their own racism directly, and allowed them to assuage their own sense of guilt with little or no risk.

But I would be willing to contend that if the great chasm that separates the races in this nation is to ever be bridged, it will require that we bring to the discussion something more than good intentions, or pious words about making sure everyone is treated with equity. Not only will we have to bring to the conversation a willingness to try to understand the pain African-Americans feel, but we will also have to recognize that we are so intimately involved in a racist system, that we are often oblivious to the degree that we have caused or continue to cause that pain.

Perhaps the real test of whether whites can communicate with blacks as human beings is not what we might say to a Colin Powell, who--like King--does not challenge whites to confront their racism, but rather how we choose to respond to a Louis Farrakhan who challenges us in ways we would prefer not to be challenge

I totally agree with zizzy and some of the other comments in the same vein. I don't think there is an "Obama-Wright" issue. Its just a bunch of hyped up bullcrap used to deflect voters from the real issues. Obama has already said that he doesn't agree with the pastor, he has written a book putting forth his views, and he's given numerous speeches putting forth his views. No where does he say racist, hateful things. And for people to make a snap judgment about a man from a few sound bites is grossly unfair. None of us have sat in Rev Wright's church for any length of time, so how can we say we know the man?! What about all the racist things the Pope has said, or Pat Buchanan has said. No one ...

I totally agree with zizzy and some of the other comments in the same vein. I don't think there is an "Obama-Wright" issue. Its just a bunch of hyped up bullcrap used to deflect voters from the real issues. Obama has already said that he doesn't agree with the pastor, he has written a book putting forth his views, and he's given numerous speeches putting forth his views. No where does he say racist, hateful things. And for people to make a snap judgment about a man from a few sound bites is grossly unfair. None of us have sat in Rev Wright's church for any length of time, so how can we say we know the man?! What about all the racist things the Pope has said, or Pat Buchanan has said. No one is forcing their supporters to distance themselves from them. Obama is running...not Rev Wright. Obama has been forced into a defensive position that is totally unfair.

Well my take on it was. or is, that the messages, of Reverend Wright haven't been all that inaccurate.

Reverend Wright's AIDS conspiracy theory about the U.S. introducing it in Africa is probably the worst. However, their were many people who questioned this in the 90's because the Salk foundation would never allow the monkey kidney samples that the vaccine was developed from to be tested to see if they were the cause. After all it was known that SV70, a virus from monkey kidneys, that causes brain tumors was transferred. But the fact is the Salk Foundation did finally acquiesce and the samples did not contain AIDS. So Wright never updated his belief on that theory.

Otherwise, and I haven...

Well my take on it was. or is, that the messages, of Reverend Wright haven't been all that inaccurate.

Reverend Wright's AIDS conspiracy theory about the U.S. introducing it in Africa is probably the worst. However, their were many people who questioned this in the 90's because the Salk foundation would never allow the monkey kidney samples that the vaccine was developed from to be tested to see if they were the cause. After all it was known that SV70, a virus from monkey kidneys, that causes brain tumors was transferred. But the fact is the Salk Foundation did finally acquiesce and the samples did not contain AIDS. So Wright never updated his belief on that theory.

Otherwise, and I haven't read the National Press Club transcript of Wright, I believe (my own belief), that Obama was upset that Wright chose to be vindictive and try to take Obama down and that Obama did not approve of the manner of delivering the message at the Press Club, that Wright was flippant and did not present the arguments in a manner that promotes productive discourse.

Really, I haven't seen much inaccuracy in what Wright has said and I believe only a handful have actually gone back and read anything more than the sound bites they have seen on FAUX News or any other media source.

Am I wrong? Have you n2 gone back and read any of those sermons in entirety?

I would have to look verbatim at what Obama said. I thought I did catch that it was the tone and mannerisms and the venue that do not lead to a principled discussion of the issues.

I also intend to read verbatim the transcript of the of the Press Club interview. I did see a little bit were Reverend Wright was discussing how people are turned off by his tone, being bombastic, and then commenting that we all speak in regional dialects, and did some impersonations of Bobby Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, a British english speaker, and I believe those characterisatioins, all though accurate, are helpful to the kind of discourse Obama would like to have.

And truly, I can not know exactly what is in Ob...

I would have to look verbatim at what Obama said. I thought I did catch that it was the tone and mannerisms and the venue that do not lead to a principled discussion of the issues.

I also intend to read verbatim the transcript of the of the Press Club interview. I did see a little bit were Reverend Wright was discussing how people are turned off by his tone, being bombastic, and then commenting that we all speak in regional dialects, and did some impersonations of Bobby Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, a British english speaker, and I believe those characterisatioins, all though accurate, are helpful to the kind of discourse Obama would like to have.

And truly, I can not know exactly what is in Obama's heart and mind, just like I truly don't know what the republican nominee is thinking when he embraces an anti-catholic, anti-semitic, gay bashing evangelical preacher.

I'll sign off on the topic until I have seen and read the words in entirety, which is probably something we should all do.

Powerful tool, the internet. You can get the whole message if you want it, or just the snippets.

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