Language has many layers of meaning - How we perceive ironic language?


	Language has many layers of meaning - How we perceive ironic language?

einbar

11-5-2008 10:05 PM

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11-6-2008 5:27 AM

tabsey

No better example than Tolkein's "The Hobbit" when Gabdalf visits Bilbo and the phrase "Good morning." is dissected.

11-7-2008 2:41 PM

graphictruth

And the difficulty is no better illustrated than in Jon Swift's comment threads.:

http://jonswift.blogspot.com/2008/11/electing-scary-black-man-president-isnt.html

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