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But what happened to global warming "boosting into high gear in 2009" If it turns out to be factual you have given it a bit of a misleading headline in that the ocean is not cooling, the ocean's surface is cooling. An important distinction. It may be an important distinction, but given that as little is known about the heat-retention of deep oceans as is known about climate science, I think it matters little to the story as it relates to the 'supposed' temperature forecasts over the next decade. You're just wanting to pile more esoteric minutia on top of pile global warming nonsense. Read the clip I linked... To make this kind of prediction, researchers at Britain's Met Office -- which deals with meteorology -- made a computer model that takes into account such natural phenomena as the El Nino pattern in the Pacific Ocean and other fluctuations in ocean circulation and heat content. I did read the clip and they are talking about ocean surface temperatures. If you had an open mind on this subject you would have noticed. Then again if you had an open mind on this subject you would unlikely hold the opinion you do. My mind was open while I learned about the issue. Your mind of course is open. Right? Two articles above: One says global warming will kick into high gear in 2009. Another story says we are headed for a decade of cooling. To reconcile those facts in support of man-caused global warming definitely takes an open mind. I'm sure. One says global warming will kick into high gear in 2009. Another story says we are headed for a decade of cooling.There is also a hypothesis by James Lovelock that says the Earth's climate will stabalize over the next 10 to 15 years. So, you see, you have ALL the bases covered You need to get your information straight. James Lovelock is calling global warming potentially one of the worst problems to ever face human society and one of the worst to face the earth system. My mind was open while I learned about the issue.Sure. You need to get your information straight. James Lovelock is callingI know. He has also said recently that due to some gathering "pollutants" of some sort at the poles that there will be a period of climate stabalization. I certainly know the level of his insanity. I'm just stating what he has written recenlty. You seem to think that if someone is of the belief that global warming is "potentially one of the worst problems to ever face human society and one of the worst to face the earth system." that it means the climate can never stabalize for any... There hasn't been any deeper ocean warming for as long as we have been taking measurements (which isn't very long) so if the surface cools and the lower levels of the ocean doesn't warm to counter it, then the ocean as a whole IS cooling. BTW, another decade of cooling would make the current cooling trend as long as the warming trend (which ended in 1998) that has spurred all this alarmism. Of course, if they want to go with the longer term warming, that started long, long before the invention of the SUV how do they blame CO2 when the warming started first and we are now cooling as CO2 is increasing at it's fastest rate ever? Here is a clip for you Kmcolo. Lovelock comes up. n2, a little informed comment from you would also be refreshing. from : http://celebrating200years.noaa.gov/breakthroughs/warming_ocean/welcome.html#stimulating In 2005, NOAA scientists updated their initial study that confirmed the warming of the world ocean in a paper that has been cited more than 50 times since publication. Other scientists have verified the long-term trend of ocean warming. Additional research stimulated by NOAA’s work shows that the outer skin of the earth’s lithosphere (continents) has warmed and retained as much heat as the earth’s atmosphere during the past 50 years. willhelm, I never said I agreed with Lovelock (but I certainly would not resort to character assassination if I did not). I was just correcting your gross error. What error? n2, a little informed comment from you would also be refreshing.Okay, how is this for informed? There is a program going on where robots are being sent to depths up to a mile deep in the ocean. Those robots stay down for a week or so and then come back up. During that time they take information readings including temperature. From those REAL temperature readings taken from thousands of robots all over the world, they have found no increase in temperature between 2003 and 2007. Being informed with respect to climate and the oceans is understanding that the deep ocean has a turnover time of between 800 and 3000 years meaning that one would not expect to find recent warming at depth. And surface ocean (distinct from seas surface) temperatures are also read by instrumentation. |
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