we could have been polarised in different camps I,m so glad you were open hearted enough to engage in some dialogue.Im still a bit sheepish how mine deteriorated on 2nd bottle but water under bridge.Just got to keep in mind it,s a public forum. The army guys slagging match the day before would have been a mistake for me to get in to! Then all the talk about getting someone banned,dear me I hate censorship.
I think it was ratifier that calmed them a bit by saying that some he,d had fights with, later had a positive relationship with, about another issue.It has been good for me learning the ropes to have you and einbar and others to follow to get gist of this medium.We have only had sa...

we could have been polarised in different camps I,m so glad you were open hearted enough to engage in some dialogue.Im still a bit sheepish how mine deteriorated on 2nd bottle but water under bridge.Just got to keep in mind it,s a public forum. The army guys slagging match the day before would have been a mistake for me to get in to! Then all the talk about getting someone banned,dear me I hate censorship.
I think it was ratifier that calmed them a bit by saying that some he,d had fights with, later had a positive relationship with, about another issue.It has been good for me learning the ropes to have you and einbar and others to follow to get gist of this medium.We have only had satellite access for about a year so I,m a bit like a chook plucking around hungrily on the key board with one finger.I must not let finger stray a hundred times like Bart in Simpsons or some one else will tell me off !!Your cool cool for cats ha ha.Keep on rock,n,in the USA.

Hey hi chestnut501 dear well no silly grin or solution in hand needed the sleep any one following us must have very little else to do?I got out of wrong side of bed though because another in different time zone has put up same clip as me and my Popper s seem to be on hers not mine I know this sounds weird but I watched video 3/4 of way through before posting it so that image on screen came up first before pressing play and it starting at beginning the odds of that happening over a 32.35min video must be millions to one so I feel uncharitable and are going to unfollow her.I don't give a fuck now about new or no followers I tried being nice after it happened last time.I popped her but she ...

Hey hi chestnut501 dear well no silly grin or solution in hand needed the sleep any one following us must have very little else to do?I got out of wrong side of bed though because another in different time zone has put up same clip as me and my Popper s seem to be on hers not mine I know this sounds weird but I watched video 3/4 of way through before posting it so that image on screen came up first before pressing play and it starting at beginning the odds of that happening over a 32.35min video must be millions to one so I feel uncharitable and are going to unfollow her.I don't give a fuck now about new or no followers I tried being nice after it happened last time.I popped her but she didn't pop me back so who cares it is not a competition.chesti bumps am I being mean or should I ignore grr I,ll be mean and unfollow none of the milk of human kindness pulsing through my veins this morning.If hers started any where else over 32 mins it could have been coincidence as to time zone times around world I cant work them out it,s 9.20am here after you kept me up so late last night so I,m grumpy ha ha also I lost inspiration again.I tried doing clip on Empress Wu Hu first feminist Chinese leader in Tang Dynasty who elevated the female and humbled the males by having them grovel before her paying homage by performing cunnilingus upon her as she stands opening her robes. She also got rid of all her rivals smartly It would have been too much to have found painting with her getting her genitals licked it,s in book "The cradle of erotica" by A..Edwards & R. Masters in case any one else is interested ha ha not getting paranoid just using & instead of @ my mistakes pointed out to me,, chow oh better spell check dear me my bad habits

Hey there chedare, That wrong side of the bed thing doesn't sound good. I wish I could say something that would help but when that happens to me, I can't even follow my good own advice. In fact, I usually go back to bed and try to go back to sleep. With any luck, I wake back up and the bad mood is gone. Sorry your not getting your pops. Quite a few people on here are bad about not looking first to see if someone has already posted a clip that they are thinking of doing. I've seen several duplicates. When it happens to me, I try not to let it bother me. I've unfollowed people before but it usually becomes some big damn deal then and I end up re-following them again anyway. So I don't even bot...

Hey there chedare, That wrong side of the bed thing doesn't sound good. I wish I could say something that would help but when that happens to me, I can't even follow my good own advice. In fact, I usually go back to bed and try to go back to sleep. With any luck, I wake back up and the bad mood is gone. Sorry your not getting your pops. Quite a few people on here are bad about not looking first to see if someone has already posted a clip that they are thinking of doing. I've seen several duplicates. When it happens to me, I try not to let it bother me. I've unfollowed people before but it usually becomes some big damn deal then and I end up re-following them again anyway. So I don't even bother doing it anymore. Sometimes, when it gets too crazy here, I just stop clipping for awhile and just go around commenting on clips. It usually works out good for me because I like to do that anyway.

@chestnut501 ,, yeah no big deal but I spat the dummy any way.Then went to town thinking about why someone that hates the US anyway would upset me.I have satisfaction of knowing anyway that because I make mistakes they are very easy to spot when another copies them.
My idea to come up with a better one didn't work out as the page wouldn't allow me to get orange lines around that first feminist Chinese Empress ,,so gave up ,,then Women of Utopia, silk screening aboriginal art site I have a nice one ,has turned into Central Australian gallery site more dramas, turning pgs to get contemporary work that has changed from original riverbed works like mine, to gallery workshop on line marketing wh...

@chestnut501 ,, yeah no big deal but I spat the dummy any way.Then went to town thinking about why someone that hates the US anyway would upset me.I have satisfaction of knowing anyway that because I make mistakes they are very easy to spot when another copies them.
My idea to come up with a better one didn't work out as the page wouldn't allow me to get orange lines around that first feminist Chinese Empress ,,so gave up ,,then Women of Utopia, silk screening aboriginal art site I have a nice one ,has turned into Central Australian gallery site more dramas, turning pgs to get contemporary work that has changed from original riverbed works like mine, to gallery workshop on line marketing which compromised my principles if you like,spat dummy again ,,then checked up on you and tabsey and called it quits.Oh citizenbfk always likes a good yack so left him a sermon.
The one horse town shop girls were good for a laugh.Like you I too have grown in other directions from them travel and the bigger picture changes ones perspectives .I thought about my critic that maybe stop being a Taoist and watching the world from a remote place waiting for the end was wrong but then who are we to judge, so I didn't pick on him/her,,oh dear" life goes on long after the feeling for living has gone" ,,,forgot the words, catch ya later.

Hi chedare,

I couldn't find the article you clipped but I found many others online.. Here's one... http://tinyurl.com/3pjsqq

Apparently, the Congo is one of the worst places to be a man as well..

Then this from a blog on PBS

When venturing out of the camps, women are vulnerable to attack and rape. We are informed about this routinely. However, there are still some atrocities too taboo to mention. Castration and male genital torture are used, like rape, as a means of terror in both the Congo and Darfur. I had to go to the Washington Post to find this out. There is no mention by Amnesty International or Human Rights Watch of the use of castration as a means of terror. Apparently,...

Hi chedare,

I couldn't find the article you clipped but I found many others online.. Here's one... http://tinyurl.com/3pjsqq

Apparently, the Congo is one of the worst places to be a man as well..

Then this from a blog on PBS

When venturing out of the camps, women are vulnerable to attack and rape. We are informed about this routinely. However, there are still some atrocities too taboo to mention. Castration and male genital torture are used, like rape, as a means of terror in both the Congo and Darfur. I had to go to the Washington Post to find this out. There is no mention by Amnesty International or Human Rights Watch of the use of castration as a means of terror. Apparently, sexual violence against the male gender is missing from their political focus.

From By Brian Steidle of the Washington Post; Sunday, March 20, 2005.

"Mihad now represents to me the countless victims of this vicious war, a war that we documented but given our restricted mandate were unable to stop. Every day we surveyed evidence of killings: men castrated and left to bleed to death, huts set on fire with people locked inside, children with their faces smashed in, men with their ears cut off and eyes plucked out, and the corpses of people who had been executed with gunshots to the head. Every day, women are sent outside the IDP camps to seek firewood and water, despite the constant risk of rape at the hands of the Janjaweed. Should men be available to venture out of the camps, they risk castration and murder. So families decide that rape is the lesser evil. It is a crime that families even have to make such a choice."

@ Kauaiguy hi ouch my balls shrank up reading that.I,ll look at clips thanks in a minute.I saw a doco of Darfur where deal was made with local Janaweed to film there and the weapons were all modern Chinese supplied to these little regional Militias hidden in bush camps.Sudanese head of state should be on trial in Europe like Serbians.What makes my blood boil is that if they are coloured their lives aren't so important like my northern West Papuans.I have felt the racist crap from whites having had a couple of long term past relationships cops treat aborigines hear like shit and when some fat Jewish war criminal (H .Kissinger) is ripping the country off like $700,000,000 a year paying Muslim...

@ Kauaiguy hi ouch my balls shrank up reading that.I,ll look at clips thanks in a minute.I saw a doco of Darfur where deal was made with local Janaweed to film there and the weapons were all modern Chinese supplied to these little regional Militias hidden in bush camps.Sudanese head of state should be on trial in Europe like Serbians.What makes my blood boil is that if they are coloured their lives aren't so important like my northern West Papuans.I have felt the racist crap from whites having had a couple of long term past relationships cops treat aborigines hear like shit and when some fat Jewish war criminal (H .Kissinger) is ripping the country off like $700,000,000 a year paying Muslim TNI killers to guard his mine & rape locals and our so called White egalitarian Government turns a blind eye to it is so wrong.Same as the disgraceful hypocrisy that took them so long to do something about health and welfare of our own black bros and sisters.The Sudanese here run around stabbing each other in the city the Vietnamese gangs also fight with them.The link I had they were after money Oxfam America, Amnesty International are even dearer to donate too.I looked for your "Little tyrants" quote but my bachelorhood allows me to spread stuff from one end of house to other alas Opposite to selfishness being a whole person

@Kauaiguy Yeah I read that thanks,I,ll keep my balls, like I said here or somewhere a guy actually another too said that it was chaotic there and when you get split up you have trouble getting out a live as you don't know friend from foe, the tribal groupings get blurred when arms and money are involved. They use child labour to sift the sands for rutile? or some mineral that west values for mobile sands in East Congo.Unfortunately it became an ideological battle ground in cold war years and a socialist government at time the Colonists(Belgium) got out would have been more beneficial in my humble opinion.Borders are pretty easy to cross ,hence the perpetrators are hard to catch, the UN woul...

@Kauaiguy Yeah I read that thanks,I,ll keep my balls, like I said here or somewhere a guy actually another too said that it was chaotic there and when you get split up you have trouble getting out a live as you don't know friend from foe, the tribal groupings get blurred when arms and money are involved. They use child labour to sift the sands for rutile? or some mineral that west values for mobile sands in East Congo.Unfortunately it became an ideological battle ground in cold war years and a socialist government at time the Colonists(Belgium) got out would have been more beneficial in my humble opinion.Borders are pretty easy to cross ,hence the perpetrators are hard to catch, the UN would need proactive SAS type teams to ambush them after establishing their mod-us operandi tracking devices and sat nav could do that easily enough.I doubt those profiting would c-operate with search & destroy activities.

Kauaiguy hi ouch my balls shrank up reading that.

No doubt being castrated has to hurt at least as much as being raped with a sharp stick..

Unfortunately for Congolese men, our media and human rights organizations focus entirely on the sexual abuse of women and virtual ignore similar abuses against men. I guess the question for me is why Western society is so much more offended by the sexual abuse of women than of men?? Some people will call that a leading question and say it isn't so. But until the media gives me reason to believe otherwise, I will suspect that male casualties of war have been traditionally acceptable, regardless of the humiliation they suffer, both in the ...

Kauaiguy hi ouch my balls shrank up reading that.

No doubt being castrated has to hurt at least as much as being raped with a sharp stick..

Unfortunately for Congolese men, our media and human rights organizations focus entirely on the sexual abuse of women and virtual ignore similar abuses against men. I guess the question for me is why Western society is so much more offended by the sexual abuse of women than of men?? Some people will call that a leading question and say it isn't so. But until the media gives me reason to believe otherwise, I will suspect that male casualties of war have been traditionally acceptable, regardless of the humiliation they suffer, both in the Congo and America ... and they remain so to this day (even to feminists and the human rights organizations they've co-opted during the last 20 years)

Unfortunately feminists I used to look up to like Germaine Greer hit the media with their introspective grumpy old woman's perspective of a world that's not about them, like she continues to denigrate Aussie heroes like wild life conservationist Steve Erwin when he died from stingray barb.People still (media) listen to them but they seem too introspective rather than objective in their world view.We should be treating all people violated by an other as sinned against and all as criminals that carry out such acts.I would not regard indigenous people fighting wars against colonists how ever as criminal despite labeling from a US perspective, ie West Papuans.Power to you friend, ha ha I cant te...

Unfortunately feminists I used to look up to like Germaine Greer hit the media with their introspective grumpy old woman's perspective of a world that's not about them, like she continues to denigrate Aussie heroes like wild life conservationist Steve Erwin when he died from stingray barb.People still (media) listen to them but they seem too introspective rather than objective in their world view.We should be treating all people violated by an other as sinned against and all as criminals that carry out such acts.I would not regard indigenous people fighting wars against colonists how ever as criminal despite labeling from a US perspective, ie West Papuans.Power to you friend, ha ha I cant tell your sex from your name which is apt for vein of our communication.

Is this a private chat room? I had to go down a very long line of comments to arrive back way down here.
Anyway, about the being in the Congo ( and other horrific African countries), they also do a thing they call "Female circumcision", but it is done with crude instruments (stone knives, etc.), no pain reducers (of course) and done under the filthiest of environments. It is said that this ritual eliminates the pleasurable aspects of sexual intercourse for the woman, so she won't stray away from her husband. Well I guess it would sure put me off of all men entirely; but, as long as the man can get his rocks off I guess it really doesn't matter what the woman feels, right boys ( sarcasm inten...

Is this a private chat room? I had to go down a very long line of comments to arrive back way down here.
Anyway, about the being in the Congo ( and other horrific African countries), they also do a thing they call "Female circumcision", but it is done with crude instruments (stone knives, etc.), no pain reducers (of course) and done under the filthiest of environments. It is said that this ritual eliminates the pleasurable aspects of sexual intercourse for the woman, so she won't stray away from her husband. Well I guess it would sure put me off of all men entirely; but, as long as the man can get his rocks off I guess it really doesn't matter what the woman feels, right boys ( sarcasm intended)?
PS Chedare: If I knew which browser you use I can locate a spell checker for you. You were so sweet about my criticisms I just thought this would be an appropriate gesture.