War is something humans do, Arifsali. It is not something unto itself. It cannot be evil or good. It is the act by humans that is evil or good. Therefore, if a human engages in a selfless act, while putting oneself in jeopardy, it can be considered the highest good. Also, if a human engages in an act of war it can be the highest evil (presuming there is a matter of degrees to evil). The worst evil is PEOPLE allowing evil to persist and your stance that evil should persist without a defense is the highest of evil. Peace IS NOT necessarily the absence of war, but the presence of evil without defense (war) is always the absence of peace. If you do not understand the condition of man, then you h...

War is something humans do, Arifsali. It is not something unto itself. It cannot be evil or good. It is the act by humans that is evil or good. Therefore, if a human engages in a selfless act, while putting oneself in jeopardy, it can be considered the highest good. Also, if a human engages in an act of war it can be the highest evil (presuming there is a matter of degrees to evil). The worst evil is PEOPLE allowing evil to persist and your stance that evil should persist without a defense is the highest of evil. Peace IS NOT necessarily the absence of war, but the presence of evil without defense (war) is always the absence of peace. If you do not understand the condition of man, then you have no choice but to apply anthromorphic fallacies to explain your world. Foolish.

exnihlo - Clipmarks can at times make Digg look like the American founding fathers. It does not get any more whacked out than clipmarks, excluding fascist blogs.

presence of evil without defense (war) is always the absence of peace.

Well, what are the odds, I just quoted this for Napster at another clip, here's for you as well.

Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors. (190)

Surely, you fight to defend yourself, that is the ultimate balance of life, but forgiveness, mercy and compassion takes precedence above everything else.

Unfortunately, under the context of this clip, the Iraqis were not attacking the US hence the context of war (with Iraq) is totally inappropriate...

presence of evil without defense (war) is always the absence of peace.

Well, what are the odds, I just quoted this for Napster at another clip, here's for you as well.

Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors. (190)

Surely, you fight to defend yourself, that is the ultimate balance of life, but forgiveness, mercy and compassion takes precedence above everything else.

Unfortunately, under the context of this clip, the Iraqis were not attacking the US hence the context of war (with Iraq) is totally inappropriate. But as I said earlier, we have come a long way here where this video has turned out to be a propaganda to manipulate the votes.

War has solved more problems, achieved more justice, allowed for more freedom and liberty, maintained more peace, and more responsible for advancing good on this Earth than anything.

Jews would not exist if not for war.
America would not exist if not for war.
Liberty would not exist if not for war.
Vigilance would not exist if not for war.
Sovereign individual European states would not exist if not for war.
The thousand year Third Reich would be in it's sixth decade if not for war.
Slavery would exist if not for war.
If not for war in the realm of imperfect humanity, the only thing that would exist is evil.

Now, I know it easy for the ridiculous freaks that troll the internet and the int...

War has solved more problems, achieved more justice, allowed for more freedom and liberty, maintained more peace, and more responsible for advancing good on this Earth than anything.

Jews would not exist if not for war.
America would not exist if not for war.
Liberty would not exist if not for war.
Vigilance would not exist if not for war.
Sovereign individual European states would not exist if not for war.
The thousand year Third Reich would be in it's sixth decade if not for war.
Slavery would exist if not for war.
If not for war in the realm of imperfect humanity, the only thing that would exist is evil.

Now, I know it easy for the ridiculous freaks that troll the internet and the intellectual absent to justify themselves and make themselves feel superior in some self-serving hateful fashion to ignore the fact that the decent DO NOT start wars or like war. However, it is a fact of life and always will be. The biggest problem is people who seem to justify every sort of evil by the determined focus to hate good.

It is not war that is evil. It is PEOPLE who are evil. And those people are the ones who perpetrate the evil and the ones with no moral conviction to confront evil.

I hate war just as much as anyone. But I love peace more than I hate war. You seem to hate war more than you love peace. THAT IS EVIL.

I'm not starting anything with you, Sahara. You are the one that says we have no free press in America. If I thought that where true, then I'd be forming a militia. So, how about you? If I thought the Constitution were all but revoked, same thing. How about you? You are the one making these moral qualifications, not me. So, obviously you have a confused stance. We can compare family contribution if you want, that is just silly. I have several lines of family military history going back to the Revolution, as well as my father and Grandfather in more recent times. These things are meaningless to this discussion. Why you would invoke it is just petty and ridiculous.

It might behoove you to qui...

I'm not starting anything with you, Sahara. You are the one that says we have no free press in America. If I thought that where true, then I'd be forming a militia. So, how about you? If I thought the Constitution were all but revoked, same thing. How about you? You are the one making these moral qualifications, not me. So, obviously you have a confused stance. We can compare family contribution if you want, that is just silly. I have several lines of family military history going back to the Revolution, as well as my father and Grandfather in more recent times. These things are meaningless to this discussion. Why you would invoke it is just petty and ridiculous.

It might behoove you to quit denying you are an anarchist. It might just do you some good.

I am action, you are words, which speaks louder?

You must be pretty busy and broke then. Because all your "action" to help the poor, feed the hungry, keep the peace in your neighborhood, attend city council meetings, write your congressmen, work extra jobs to have more money to give to charity, all the volunteer work you must do, all the volunteer labor you must involve yourself in, all the protesting you must do and all the other "action" it must take to have a well functioning anarchist society must take a lot of time. But, then I wouldn't cry "hypocrite" if you didn't do it all.

Well, whatever, sahara. It's not any more lame than your personal choices. There is an event horizon that is different for everyone. Your cookie-cutter assertion doesn't fit your anarchist mindset.
If I thought the things you thought about America (Of course for me to think those things they would have to be based in more reality, not enbar-esque feigned outrage.), then I would be much further along than you on the road to "action".

I think the point is that you 1. admit you are anarchist 2. admit that war is purposeful, even though you believe it should only be fought by ideologues 3. that you hate war more than you love peace. 4. You think disagreement is an attack on you personally. a...

Well, whatever, sahara. It's not any more lame than your personal choices. There is an event horizon that is different for everyone. Your cookie-cutter assertion doesn't fit your anarchist mindset.
If I thought the things you thought about America (Of course for me to think those things they would have to be based in more reality, not enbar-esque feigned outrage.), then I would be much further along than you on the road to "action".

I think the point is that you 1. admit you are anarchist 2. admit that war is purposeful, even though you believe it should only be fought by ideologues 3. that you hate war more than you love peace. 4. You think disagreement is an attack on you personally. and 5. your only reply is to direct your outrage in a war-like manner toward someone who loves peace more than I hate war, and that the best you can do is apply moral judgements on non-moral life decisions.

But the most telling point is the materialist fog that prevents you from grasping the entanglement of justice and peace. Like equality and liberty, they can only exist in a synergistic form because they do not coexist well. It's called truth, sahara. Take off the anarchist blinders.