Anyone seen Ben Stein's Expelled documentary? It.. its worth a watch.

I always agreed with Ben's view... isn't science was about proposing a hypothesis?... about finding facts to support your hypothesis?

The idea of change over time is not the same as evolution is it? I think most everyone will admit that people change over time to adjust to a particular environment.

The simplest things cannot evolve by added energy. Bags of cement and bars of steel do not become skyscrapers by shaking them violently around with water and electricity or any other type of power - how much less could something as complex as even the simplest living organism? Even simple things like cooking dinner could nev...

Anyone seen Ben Stein's Expelled documentary? It.. its worth a watch.

I always agreed with Ben's view... isn't science was about proposing a hypothesis?... about finding facts to support your hypothesis?

The idea of change over time is not the same as evolution is it? I think most everyone will admit that people change over time to adjust to a particular environment.

The simplest things cannot evolve by added energy. Bags of cement and bars of steel do not become skyscrapers by shaking them violently around with water and electricity or any other type of power - how much less could something as complex as even the simplest living organism? Even simple things like cooking dinner could never happen by accident.

People just want to be right...right? It makes it easy to cling to emotionally charged theories and ideas because lets face it, who wants to say they are wrong? who will admit... maybe they missed something?

Some transitional fossils (thanks freewheelin franklin)

Kenichthys, Osteolepis, Eusthenopteron, Sterropterygion, Panderichthys, Elpistostege, Hynerpeton, Acanthostega, Ichthyostega, Hynerpeton, Pholidogaster, Pteroplax, Dendrerpeton, Archegosaurus, Eryops, Trematops, Amphibamus, Doleserpeton, Triadobatrachus, Vieraella, Karaurus, Limnoscelis, Tseajaia, Solenodonsaurus, Hylonomus, Paleothyris, Captorhinus, Scutosaurus, Deltavjatia, Proganochelys, Hylonomus, Paleothyris, Petrolacosaurus, Araeoscelis, Apsisaurus, Claudiosaurus, Planocephalosaurus, Protorosaurus, Prolacerta, Proterosuchus, Hyperodapedon, Trilophosaurus, Paleothy...

Some transitional fossils (thanks freewheelin franklin)

Kenichthys, Osteolepis, Eusthenopteron, Sterropterygion, Panderichthys, Elpistostege, Hynerpeton, Acanthostega, Ichthyostega, Hynerpeton, Pholidogaster, Pteroplax, Dendrerpeton, Archegosaurus, Eryops, Trematops, Amphibamus, Doleserpeton, Triadobatrachus, Vieraella, Karaurus, Limnoscelis, Tseajaia, Solenodonsaurus, Hylonomus, Paleothyris, Captorhinus, Scutosaurus, Deltavjatia, Proganochelys, Hylonomus, Paleothyris, Petrolacosaurus, Araeoscelis, Apsisaurus, Claudiosaurus, Planocephalosaurus, Protorosaurus, Prolacerta, Proterosuchus, Hyperodapedon, Trilophosaurus, Paleothyris, Protoclepsydrops , Clepsydrops, Archaeothyris, Varanops, Haptodus, Dimetrodon, Sphenacodon, Biarmosuchia, Procynosuchus, Dvinia, Thrinaxodon, Cynognathus, Diademodon, Probelesodon, Probainognathus, Exaeretodon, Oligokyphus, Kayentatherium, Pachygenelus, Diarthrognathus, Adelobasileus, Sinoconodon, Kuehneotherium, Eozostrodon, Morganucodon, Haldanodon, Peramus, Endotherium, Kielantherium, Aegialodon, Steropodon, Pariadens, Kennalestes, Asioryctes, Cimolestes, Procerberus, Gypsonictops, Archeopteryx, Coelophysis, Deinonychus, Oviraptor, Lisboasaurus, Sinornis, Ambiortus, Hesperornis, Ichthyornis, Palaechthon, Purgatorius, Cantius, Pelycodus, Amphipithecus, Pondaungia, Parapithecus, Propliopithecus, Aegyptopithecus, Aegyptopithecus, Proconsul, Limnopithecus, Dryopithecus, Sivapithecus, Cynodictis, Hesperocyon, Ursavus, Protursus, Ursus minimus, Pachycynodon, Enaliarctos, Neotherium, Imagotaria, Imagotaria, Thalassoleon, Leptophoca, Montherium, Haplogale, Proailurus, Proailurus, Pseudaelurus, Dinictis, Hoplophoneus, Herpestes, Eoconodon, Microclaenodon, Dissacus, Hapalodectes, Pakicetus, Ambulocetus, Rodhocetus, Basilosaurus, Protocetes, Indocetus, Prozeuglodon, Eocetus and Dorudon.

There are more.
BTW, can you explain goose pimples?

the term transitional surely is cannot be a scientific term - a transitional fossil could support no more truth than would a disfigured human skeleton, a child skeleton, nor would a dwarf skeleton tell us we all came from short people. I would not suppose scientists could really jump to that conclusion. Even with very large words, and large numbers and confusing the length of prehistoric history... it still only proves that people can't admit that they just dont know.

Different fossils does not prove something very important - we have a wonderful variety of animals. We still see a variety today, if evolution in the scientific sense were true - shouldnt weaker species have died out? Surely ...

the term transitional surely is cannot be a scientific term - a transitional fossil could support no more truth than would a disfigured human skeleton, a child skeleton, nor would a dwarf skeleton tell us we all came from short people. I would not suppose scientists could really jump to that conclusion. Even with very large words, and large numbers and confusing the length of prehistoric history... it still only proves that people can't admit that they just dont know.

Different fossils does not prove something very important - we have a wonderful variety of animals. We still see a variety today, if evolution in the scientific sense were true - shouldnt weaker species have died out? Surely dinosaurs were not a weak species? If we came from another animal there would be could be no more existence of that animal. Apes would not exist. Logically and mathematically it could not become 2 divided species. To suppose that at some time one cell divided into 2 cells and then one of those cells develop and a human.... ok lets suppose that is true... the purpose would be for what? surely apes are much more adapted to their environment that humans - we seek shelter, store food, mate inconsistently, think, dream, draw, create and ... for what? it does not make us more adaptable in fact it makes us more detached.

The Bible should not be blamed for not explaining every detail of human existence as some would say. The purpose of it is not to be a book of science or history , although there are both.

It is no wonder that the Church of England put out a public apology for Charles Darwin... intended to vindicate and win back some to the church as a all-loving-all-excepting place where all ideas no matter how conflicting bible truth... can and will be accepted over time if enough pressure is given by government and people over time... that is evolution in the modern day.

If we came from another animal there would be could be no more existence of that animal. Apes would not exist.

This is a fallacious argument - evolutionary theory has never claimed that humans evolved from apes but that apes and man have a common ancestor. I have (human) cousins, but I am not descended from them - we are both descended from a grandparent somewhere further up the family tree - perhaps with a few "greats" attached. Furthermore, evolution claims that change is prompted by a need to adapt to an envoronmental niche. It is assumed that humanity's ancestors left the environment that gave rise to apes and were required to adapt to the needs of their new niche.

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If we came from another animal there would be could be no more existence of that animal. Apes would not exist.

This is a fallacious argument - evolutionary theory has never claimed that humans evolved from apes but that apes and man have a common ancestor. I have (human) cousins, but I am not descended from them - we are both descended from a grandparent somewhere further up the family tree - perhaps with a few "greats" attached. Furthermore, evolution claims that change is prompted by a need to adapt to an envoronmental niche. It is assumed that humanity's ancestors left the environment that gave rise to apes and were required to adapt to the needs of their new niche.

Surely dinosaurs were not a weak species?

No, but an asteroid strike can be a real killer. Not many of us would survive a similar event.

Surely dinosaurs were not a weak species?