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11-10-2007 2:07 PM
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11-10-2007 5:13 PM
abailart
More evidence that most brain processing is unconscious.
11-10-2007 8:31 PM
pokkets
If we could see ourselves thinking, we'd probably get confused
11-11-2007 1:52 PM
wildcat
the real evolutionary question is why on earth do we need an unconscious?
anything wrong with consciousness?
11-11-2007 3:28 PM
abailart
"Unconscious' here just means what you aren't conscious of. As pokkets says if you were conscious of everything at once you would be in trouble. Most of what we 'do' from breathing to driving is 'unconscious' by and large. Certainly, and fortunately!, most of our memories are unconscious apart from the one that is conscious. Research in neuroscience generally assumes, for instance, that we register an event before we perceive, make sense of it. Consciousness in the human sense is pretty new on the evolutionary scene. And things like ideology have to work unconsciously to work at all.
11-11-2007 4:36 PM
wildcat
unconscious is a heavy, loaded word for instinctive, and habit forming patterns, I wouldn't call this unconscious, if for no other reason than its Freudian weight and by consequence, implications.
i agree that consciousness is fresh on the scene, but that is where the discontinuity from the genetic imperative lies, hence, the more conscious we will become the less we will need use past patterns and will be in a sense forced to approach reality by creating new forms of adaptation.. that i may relate to as evolution..
11-11-2007 6:38 PM
abailart
The freudian unconscious is weighted (though lacan lightened it up considerably!) and of course psychoanalysis has gifted to culture all sorts of psychobabble. The neuroscience of the likes of LeDoux and Damasio is cutting edge modern bioevolutionary stuff that digs deep into brain meat, and necessarily points to mental processes of which we are totally unaware. Although we live in an 'age of reason' there is a long tradition of philosophical critique that we are not at all reasonable, that passions drive us to act, a point made very cogently by David Hume.Too, literature -and art in general - has always specialised in revealing that of which we are unaware in the bright light of reason. The...
11-12-2007 6:15 PM
pokkets
Our conscience thinks it is is charge, but is often overruled by the subconscious. For example-How long can you hold your breath. Another example is the way that due to the development of language, our mind can often see ideas represented as words. The deeper root of an idea can be seen to a point, when we learn another language, where we relate a word in another language, through the concept that represents that word. Sometimes areas of the subconscious can be traced to a shallow degree in this way, but perhaps there could be a comparison to cabinet files in an operating system. You might never know they are there, but try operating, after they have been altered or deleted. Our conscience ...
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