A study: birds recognized themselves in the mirror


	A study: birds recognized themselves in the mirror

einbar

8-19-2008 12:25 AM

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Magpies are the first non-mammal to demonstrate a rudimentary affinity for self-recognition

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8-19-2008 7:16 AM

einbar

more on birds: Major evolutionary study rewrites bird ‘tree of life’
http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/EE43B2BD-A6AA-43CC-8358-8AD7277893AA/

8-19-2008 9:51 AM

tanyamm

I used to have a little budgie named Pickles; he used to preen himself in front of a mirror saying to himself and who ever would listen ( in different tones ), pretty, Pickles, Pickles pretty? Birds are very smart and they certainly can recognize themselves in a mirror.

8-21-2008 12:40 PM

darkduskx

"social birds that possess LARGE BRAINS with expanded cortical-like areas should display at least some level of self-recognition"

--Irene Pepperberg of Brandeis University in Waltham, Mass.

Large brains = self-awareness. It was never just for humans.

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