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6-15-2008 3:21 PM
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RecordSage says:
The article speaks for itself.
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6-15-2008 3:35 PM
dmegivern
Fox News research department. This is sickening just thinking about how my days are spent helping poor people get an education for much less pay than a business daytrader exploiting oil speculation who gives a tiny fraction of his income says "Look at how nice I am." It is easy to be happy separated from the realities of poverty or utterly neglecting pained people.

The premise is almost too easy to refute. Just some qualitative data from my own family. There are the people in our family that leave the weak to die, the Limbaugh sycophants versus those of us who actually sacrificed our youth and financial well-being to raise helpless kids. Nice right wingers? What a fantasy!
6-15-2008 4:41 PM
jklugman
Peter Schweizer's statistics come from the General Social Survey, a large representative sample survey of Americans that has been conducted annually/biannually since the 1970s. Those who are interested can double-check Schweizer's statistics online

In the first statistic he gives, I found a serious misrepresentation:

Those surveyed were asked: 'Is it your obligation to care for a seriously injured/ill spouse or parent, or should you give care only if you really want to?' Of those describing themselves as 'conservative', 71 per cent said it was. Only 46 per cent of those on the Left agreed.
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6-15-2008 4:59 PM
jklugman
To the question: 'Do you get happiness by putting someone else's happiness ahead of your own?', 55 per cent of those who said they were 'very conservative' said Yes, compared with 20 per cent of those who were 'very liberal'.
Again, Schweizer is misrepresenting the question. The AGAPE2 question was actually:

I cannot be happy unless I place the one I love's happiness before my own.
55% of extreme conservatives say they "agree strongly" with this statement, compared to 20% of extreme liberals.

I guess if you think being a doormat for your boyfriend/girlfriend constitutes being "nice" (friendly, honest, well-adjusted), then this question would make sense to y...
6-15-2008 5:13 PM
jklugman
By the way, I know the AGAPE2 question is specifically asking about putting the happiness of one's romantic partner above one's own happiness because it was part of a series of questions about romantic relationships.
6-15-2008 5:42 PM
BitDrifter
Left-wing people... want to outsource their obligations to others.
Much of the desire to distribute wealth and higher taxation is
motivated by envy - the desire to take more from someone else - and
bitterness.
Further, [url=clipmark/43D6B426-9D6A-4908-801A-263203263383/]right wingers are more honest[/url].

6-15-2008 5:43 PM
BitDrifter
6-15-2008 6:48 PM
RecordSage
It's interesting how every negative remark here from the left only strengthens the point of the article.
6-15-2008 7:16 PM
abailart
Nice is an interesting word.
7-31-2008 12:42 AM
Xtraeme
This is the very definition of trolling.
7-31-2008 2:12 AM
dmegivern
Nice obviously needs to be defined. Willing to let other human beings suffer, not nice. Willing to kill thousands of people for oil, not nice. Chronically supported far right nuts that advocate violence against liberals, not nice. Oh yeah, shooting eight liberals while they are at church, not nice.
7-31-2008 9:35 PM
RecordSage
Nice is nice and a poll is a poll... unless of course you want to redefine the definition of what 'is' is...
8-1-2008 10:02 PM
dmegivern
You have some nerve telling a person who has sacrificed her entire life, going all the way back to being the only employed person in our household when I was 8 because I had the paper route, that I am not as giving as any conservative. I took on all of the debt of raising my two youngest siblings without support on my own. I have taken in more people that need a little help than you know. That is nice. The rest of the article is BS.
8-1-2008 10:17 PM
RecordSage
What's BS is your attitude that the world is you and everything stated is about you. It's not. The poll was taken, a number of them actually according to the article and you, as hard it is to believe for you, were NOT the focal point. The numbers however turned out as described. Now you can choose to ignore the facts and follow the fake ideology mantra or look at the results and and look at the as they are. No reason getting all huffy over some polls.
8-2-2008 12:16 AM
dmegivern
This author of the article you clipped is doing a sloppy literature review. Taking several research studies, all of which I have read, and putting forth a thesis without providing sources. He is not interpreting many of the studies correctly, all of the counter-findings are missing, and he is at a place with an agenda. He is at the Hoover Institute, a famously conservative think tank, that caters to the whims of its benefactor source. Just like the Heritage Foundation, they produce scholars who are not taken seriously by most other scholars because of their famously inaccurate analysis and interpretation of data, their deliberate exclusions of thousands of studies in their discussions of res...
8-2-2008 3:33 AM
RecordSage
Spoken like a true liberal... I especially like the 'some newspapers put out anti-liberal'... if there are any - they're a serious minority when you look at how pro-liberal most media is. And you don't need polls to see that on the daily basis.
8-2-2008 3:41 AM
dmegivern
Do the research. The majority of papers are now owned by conservatives, same with radio. Liberal media is the Nation, American Progress, Z. There are no mainstream newspapers in this country that are truly hard-left liberal. Not the take us to war, NY Times with David Brooks, Safire, Bill Kristol, etc.. Not the Murdoch Street Journal. Even liberal rags like Newsweek give Rove, George Will, Samuelson, and many, many right-wing others plenty of column space. I have to find my media in small outlets. Then I trace it back the source and check it out myself.
8-2-2008 4:28 AM
RecordSage
I don't believe in bias either way. I want what's fair, i.e. I want both sides stating their view and I'll decide what I'll decide based on that. Part of the problem with most media today (and it is liberal mostly... and here's a simple proof - do you think Obama, aka the Messiah, would get the attention and drooling he gets if the media was conservative? just apply pure logic for the answer. We're dealing with a card-carrying socialist here... he wouldn't know how to spell 'right wing' if his life depended on it)... anyway, back to the sentence - the problem with the media is that the journalists are pushing their bias forward, instead of just reporting the facts. I realize that there ...
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