runningdude says: Should Al Gore give his Oscar back? Probably!! Marked as propaganda by whom is it marked as propaganda? How would you like to explain both planets having similar warming trends, at the same time? If you read the article Mike, you'd also see that there are a number of scientists who think that though he has shown a correlation, that it doesn't not mean that the sun is the only cause for global warming (or even a minor cause of it). Many scientists have looked at this correlation before, and this idea has been brought up again and again, but the vast majority of scientists just don't think it works. It just isn't enough information.. it COULD just be a coincidence. I'm not saying it may not be right, I'm just saying that i doubt it. ... too many other studies have shown contrary conclusions... too many other well respected scientists have come to the conclusion that man is th cause.. not the sun. CatWhisperer - Neither the poster of this clip nor the writer of the Article claim proof that man-made conditions are not possible for global warming. The article states that it "casts doubt" which it does. Evidence of global climate changes on two planetary bodies is pretty significant and should be looked into as a possible factor in planetary climate change. The article then quoted scientists ans explained why this is significant. Just because "too many scientist" have concluded that man is the cause of global warming doesn't mean that this is just one factor that needs to be examined. Also, just because scientists have concluded that something is true doesn't mean that it is. One ... the vast majority of scientistsHave any numbers to back that up. After all, we are talking about science here which deals with hard facts. I want to see some hard facts on the 'vast majority of scientists' and the 'consensus.' I keep hearing that, yet more and more I see credible scientists from universities around the world questioning the the science behind this man made global warming alarmism. Read: * Climate change special: State of denial(newscientist.com) * Science Academies Statement: Global Response to Climate Change (nationalacademies.org) (PDF) * BEYOND THE IVORY TOWER: The Scientific Consensus on Climate Change (sciencemag.com) need others? Amen. Man made global warming is a scare tactic concocted by the liberals to help them gain power. If they are so concerning about greenhouse gasses, they should curtain the razing of the amazon forests and those in equatorial Africa. Comparing all the internal combustion engines in the world, all the factories, and Algore's huge carbon footprint - not come even close to the CO2 belched out every hour of every day from the world's onshore and underwater active volcanoes. OK now to say that Global Warming is a liberal scare tactic is just as fool hearty as saying that the variations in the Sun have no affect on Earth climate. There is plenty of evidence that suggest that certain man-made conditions are responsible for climate change. There is at least enough evidence to regard the idea as very creditable and do more research. In fact, I feel there is enough evidence to warrant many of the preventive measures being taken to try and reduce emission of greenhouse gases. Mars actually lends credibility to the greenhouse effect. There is much evidence that similar conditions existed on Mars causing a build up greenhouse gases which burned away what was left o... On the Human vs. Volcano statement. I have clipped a US Global Survey site that shows the relationship of human c02 emission versus volcanic. http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/2D72819F-F8A3-46BB-BB55-82504DEF65BA/ Read:I can find just as many with scientists that don't believe man is the primary driver behind global warming. And there are so many that come somewhere in the middle. I just have little faith in someone who calls themselves a scientist trying to have science by consensus. I have clipped a US Global Survey site that shows the relationship of human c02 emission versus volcanic.That is the point that volcanoe emission is just small part of entire earth crust/mantle degassing. Those amounts have not been estimated yet. And we need to remember about CH4 that is much more effective as a greenhouse gas than CO2. Huge source of CH4 emissions is gas hydrates. They are discovered overall in ocean sediments. But there is also deep source of CH4. |
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