She's obviously more woman than most though, as she decided to have her fifth child (whom was pre-diagnosed with Down Syndrome) as to aborting.
Motherhood = Womanhood? Forcing pregnancy on a minor = unconditional love? You are obviously a man, and an ignorant one at that.

She's more of a woman because she CHOSE not to abort her unborn child whom she already knew was going to have Down Syndrome. Takes a big person to deal with that. On top of 4 other kids and a Full time Governor job (which has her rated@ 80-90% approval).

Being a woman is not just motherhood, contrary to your explanation. It also involves being responsible for the choices you have made. As Pali...

She's obviously more woman than most though, as she decided to have her fifth child (whom was pre-diagnosed with Down Syndrome) as to aborting.
Motherhood = Womanhood? Forcing pregnancy on a minor = unconditional love? You are obviously a man, and an ignorant one at that.

She's more of a woman because she CHOSE not to abort her unborn child whom she already knew was going to have Down Syndrome. Takes a big person to deal with that. On top of 4 other kids and a Full time Governor job (which has her rated@ 80-90% approval).

Being a woman is not just motherhood, contrary to your explanation. It also involves being responsible for the choices you have made. As Palin has done. What have YOU done?

Personally, I sense a bit of jealousy from quite a few around here. Palin is smart, successful and good looking and you know it. Sucks to be you I guess!

Please. Once a woman becomes pregnant there are two lives. She doesn't get to choose for both. We as a Government decide to pass laws all the time that "tell us as sentient beings" what we can and can't do with our bodies and our lives.

And you don't have to be a Christian to not want to kill babies. And I don't have to be a woman to know that it is wrong. I don't have to be rapes to know that adding an abortion to a rape will only make things worse. I have read countless stories of women who have gotten abortions and what it does to their psyches. abortionchangesyou.com should be a site you should become familiar with.

As for the life experience, well I am married to a woman who ...

Please. Once a woman becomes pregnant there are two lives. She doesn't get to choose for both. We as a Government decide to pass laws all the time that "tell us as sentient beings" what we can and can't do with our bodies and our lives.

And you don't have to be a Christian to not want to kill babies. And I don't have to be a woman to know that it is wrong. I don't have to be rapes to know that adding an abortion to a rape will only make things worse. I have read countless stories of women who have gotten abortions and what it does to their psyches. abortionchangesyou.com should be a site you should become familiar with.

As for the life experience, well I am married to a woman who has experienced both so I am very intimate with the details of what a woman goes through.

I don't have to be rapes to know that adding an abortion to a rape will only make things worse.

Yes, you do.

I have read countless stories of women who have gotten abortions and what it does to their psyches.

Congratulations. I have actually listened to real women, not anonymous posters, talk about their experiences and choices.

abortionchangesyou.com should be a site you should become familiar with.

You should become familiar with the women I know who have not one ounce of regret. And the ones who speak of the horror before legal abortion was available.

I am very intimate with the details of what a woman goes through.

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I don't have to be rapes to know that adding an abortion to a rape will only make things worse.

Yes, you do.

I have read countless stories of women who have gotten abortions and what it does to their psyches.

Congratulations. I have actually listened to real women, not anonymous posters, talk about their experiences and choices.

abortionchangesyou.com should be a site you should become familiar with.

You should become familiar with the women I know who have not one ounce of regret. And the ones who speak of the horror before legal abortion was available.

I am very intimate with the details of what a woman goes through.

Having something happen to your wife is not the same as something happening to you. Sorry.

Once a woman becomes pregnant there are two lives.

No, there is a real woman with a real life with a fertilized egg attached to her uterine wall.

In your opinion. I happened to believe that life begins at conception. When do you think it begins. 2nd trimester, 3rd. I suspect at some point you believe it is a life and that by ending the prenancy you will, in effect, kill the baby. Or maybe you think partial birth abortion is ok. Let the kid get a glimpse of life before you stick a needle in its head and kill it. Or may, you are like Peter Sanger and think that abortion is ok up until 2 years old.

I am sick and tired of abortion people telling me that it is only about the woman. What about the man. That child is part ours, why don't we have a say?

And regarding your other logic...have you ever been a soldier in a combat zon...

In your opinion. I happened to believe that life begins at conception. When do you think it begins. 2nd trimester, 3rd. I suspect at some point you believe it is a life and that by ending the prenancy you will, in effect, kill the baby. Or maybe you think partial birth abortion is ok. Let the kid get a glimpse of life before you stick a needle in its head and kill it. Or may, you are like Peter Sanger and think that abortion is ok up until 2 years old.

I am sick and tired of abortion people telling me that it is only about the woman. What about the man. That child is part ours, why don't we have a say?

And regarding your other logic...have you ever been a soldier in a combat zone, no, then I don't think you should be able to talk about the war. How's that?

And the horror before it was legal as opposed to the horror that it is now? Just because it is cleaner, safer and easier to get doesn't mean that results are any different. Those women were breaking the law. Do you want me to have sympathy for a lawbreaker because she couldn't procure a safe, clean environment to break the law in?

"So killing the baby would make you feel better? "

And how would the woman feel everyday seeing that child that she was forced into having? what about seeing the face of her rapist staring back at her in the face of her child? You yourself stated that the horror did not need to be passed on to the child, but if a women has no want to have that child she is not going to be the best mother she can be.

Im 16 this year, if i was raped now and got pregnant, in your thinking, I would have to have that baby. my entire life would forever be changed. theres the extra bills, the embarrassment...
I would have to drop out of school, get a job. my body would change far beyong what a 16 year olds bod...

"So killing the baby would make you feel better? "

And how would the woman feel everyday seeing that child that she was forced into having? what about seeing the face of her rapist staring back at her in the face of her child? You yourself stated that the horror did not need to be passed on to the child, but if a women has no want to have that child she is not going to be the best mother she can be.

Im 16 this year, if i was raped now and got pregnant, in your thinking, I would have to have that baby. my entire life would forever be changed. theres the extra bills, the embarrassment...
I would have to drop out of school, get a job. my body would change far beyong what a 16 year olds body is ment to.

I am 100% sure if i got pregnant right now I would abort the pregnancy. I am not emotionally ready to have or take care of a child.

When a woman is raped she is denied the choice.
now your saying she should be denied the choice of keeping that pregnancy as well? "what about the father" you say, shouldnt he be denied the choice then as well? what you preach is sexist and biased. As a man you have no right to make a choice for a women regarding her life and her body.

Pregnancy is a choice that the MOTHER makes. the fathers opinion can be respected and considerded, but in the end the women decides. If you force a women to have a child she does not want you are raping her a second time. raping her of another choice. giving her more pain, more struggle. no one has the right to choose that on another creature.

The right's fanatical cult of the unborn child--of life, as they so define pro-choice to mean pro-death is typically accompanied by much, much less concern about the survival and well being of the born child (unless it's about protecting the tyke from the influence of the HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA and from the fruit of the tree of knowledge of evolution)
And you have to admit the on the whole the Bushite heroes' don't feel as stirred to protested the criminal sacrifice of lives in Iraq. Ah contraire: A really doable chicki spokeman for them actually uttered this:

We should invade countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity[/quote...

The right's fanatical cult of the unborn child--of life, as they so define pro-choice to mean pro-death is typically accompanied by much, much less concern about the survival and well being of the born child (unless it's about protecting the tyke from the influence of the HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA and from the fruit of the tree of knowledge of evolution)
And you have to admit the on the whole the Bushite heroes' don't feel as stirred to protested the criminal sacrifice of lives in Iraq. Ah contraire: A really doable chicki spokeman for them actually uttered this:

We should invade countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity

Well, King George did say Mission Accomplished didn't he? Nope, for these righteous folks mission accomplished will happen only when Roe vs. Wade is overturned and the Constitution has been amended to ban aborton outright. Never mind that year after year, a majority of Americans oppose such a ban.
Not, of course, that such action would end abortion. How about preventing abortions through more effective birth control and sex education? The fact that conservs oppose this too suggests that what they're really against is sex except in marriage and for the purpose of procreation rather than recreation.

The haunting frear that someone, somewhere, may be happy

iekarly

=And how would the woman feel everyday seeing that child that she was forced into having? what about seeing the face of her rapist staring back at her in the face of her child?=

iekarly

=Pregnancy is a choice that the MOTHER makes. the fathers opinion can be respected and considerded, but in the end the women decides. If you force a women to have a child she does not want you are raping her a second time. raping her of another choice. giving her more pain, more struggle. no one has the right to choose that on another creature.=

You are 15??! I have no words. Unbelievable! You have bright future, little girl. Go ahead, I will vote for you as my president ...

iekarly

=And how would the woman feel everyday seeing that child that she was forced into having? what about seeing the face of her rapist staring back at her in the face of her child?=

iekarly

=Pregnancy is a choice that the MOTHER makes. the fathers opinion can be respected and considerded, but in the end the women decides. If you force a women to have a child she does not want you are raping her a second time. raping her of another choice. giving her more pain, more struggle. no one has the right to choose that on another creature.=

You are 15??! I have no words. Unbelievable! You have bright future, little girl. Go ahead, I will vote for you as my president then.

debbyski

=Nope, for these righteous folks mission accomplished will happen only when Roe vs. Wade is overturned and the Constitution has been amended to ban aborton outright. Never mind that year after year, a majority of Americans oppose such a ban.=

That is orthodoxy obscurantism, one of an appearance of which can be transformed into fascist outfit with rampaging violence and suppression of freedom of any choice in society from abortion to election. As soon as we get what we are facing, as better we can resist to such a grim possibility.

iekarly

=And how would the woman feel everyday seeing that child that she was forced into having? what about seeing the face of her rapist staring back at her in the face of her child?=

iekarly

=Pregnancy is a choice that the MOTHER makes. the fathers opinion can be respected and considerded, but in the end the women decides. If you force a women to have a child she does not want you are raping her a second time. raping her of another choice. giving her more pain, more struggle. no one has the right to choose that on another creature.=

You are 15??! I have no words. Unbelievable! You have bright future, little girl. Go ahead, I will vote for you as my president ...

iekarly

=And how would the woman feel everyday seeing that child that she was forced into having? what about seeing the face of her rapist staring back at her in the face of her child?=

iekarly

=Pregnancy is a choice that the MOTHER makes. the fathers opinion can be respected and considerded, but in the end the women decides. If you force a women to have a child she does not want you are raping her a second time. raping her of another choice. giving her more pain, more struggle. no one has the right to choose that on another creature.=

You are 15??! I have no words. Unbelievable! You have bright future, little girl. Go ahead, I will vote for you as my president then.

debbyski

=Nope, for these righteous folks mission accomplished will happen only when Roe vs. Wade is overturned and the Constitution has been amended to ban aborton outright. Never mind that year after year, a majority of Americans oppose such a ban.=

That is orthodoxy obscurantism, one of an appearance of which can be transformed into fascist outfit with rampaging violence and suppression of freedom of any choice in society from abortion to election. As soon as we get what we are facing, as better we can resist to such a grim possibility.

Wowo, Wicca!

If there is one thing I can be proud of in my life, it is the accomplishment that I raised two beautiful, loving daughters who have given so much to society. I'm so proud of them and their accomplishments. And from the time I felt they were ready to talk to me about love and sex and birth control I was there for them. Not only talking about things like date rape but what is like to be a woman in our society. Of course, I knew they would make mistakes, but I felt it was more honest and open to discuss birth control with them then to expect them to be virgins until their wedding day. That would be great, but IMO probably unrealistic in today's society. I feel most of the peo...

Wowo, Wicca!

If there is one thing I can be proud of in my life, it is the accomplishment that I raised two beautiful, loving daughters who have given so much to society. I'm so proud of them and their accomplishments. And from the time I felt they were ready to talk to me about love and sex and birth control I was there for them. Not only talking about things like date rape but what is like to be a woman in our society. Of course, I knew they would make mistakes, but I felt it was more honest and open to discuss birth control with them then to expect them to be virgins until their wedding day. That would be great, but IMO probably unrealistic in today's society. I feel most of the people who are saying those values are the only values that count are just plain wrong.