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1-8-2007 2:21 PM
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From a fascinating interview w/ author Chris Hedges (son of a Presbyterian minister and a Harvard Divinity School grad) about his new book, American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America. This guy has a sense of perspective most of us don't, based on his experience as a war correspondent for the NYT. Not a religion-basher, but a realist who's incensed both with the manipulation of entire classes of people and the cluelessness of the left when it comes to awareness of the real issues we're grappling with as a society.
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1-8-2007 4:36 PM
gingembre
Good article! Everyone should read this for a better understanding of what is happening to our society while so many manipulated people scoff, deny and even ridicule those who call attention to it.
1-8-2007 4:50 PM
n2sooners
Seems the sides are being drawn. The right is fighting terrorism and the left is fighting Christianity.
1-8-2007 5:07 PM
communicatrix
Actually, n2s, I would argue with you on both counts: the right *thinks* it is fighting terrorism, and the left isn't fighting, period. And if you'd actually read the interview carefully, the author was 100% NOT anti-Christianity: he was/is appalled by the perversion of Christianity in the service of something distinctly non-Christian.

I think there is a small, small minority on either "side" that's actually thinking, and I think those thinking people actually respect one another rather than insisting upon conversion to "prove" their patriotism, goodness, etc. Religions have generally been far less tolerant of non-believers than the other way around; I wonder what on earth is so inherently ...
1-8-2007 5:15 PM
Godfrey Daniel
American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America.

Not a religion-basher, but a realist ...

Interesting that he would write a book, then, the contents of which is apparently at odds with its ridiculous title.
1-8-2007 5:22 PM
communicatrix
<em>Interesting that he would write a book, then, the contents of which is apparently at odds with its ridiculous title.</em>

Oy. I rest my case.
1-8-2007 5:23 PM
communicatrix
Which I could do with more effectiveness and authority if I read up on employing tags in this here program, but whatever.
1-8-2007 5:27 PM
Godfrey Daniel
Use BBCode
1-8-2007 5:35 PM
Godfrey Daniel
Using this extension makes it very simple. Although inexplicably not listed in the features, it adds a "Format Toolbar" which you don't even need to be open to utilize.

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1-8-2007 5:38 PM
Godfrey Daniel
By the way, how was I so easily able to "rest your case"? What case is it that is resting?
1-8-2007 6:07 PM
communicatrix
Godfrey D...

I may have replied to your comment too quickly--on first read, it looked like you were calling bullsh*t on his thesis w/o having carefully read the contents of the interview (obviously, I'm not expecting anyone here to have read the actual book...yet).

While I would agree that his title is provocative, and perhaps overly so, I'm guessing that's more a function of trying to play the publicity machine. In the interview, while he cops to a harshness in the title, he backs up the fascism call by drawing parallels to a number of different eras in history, and he indicates a fair amount of scholarly research as well. No Ann Coulter, he.

Thanks for the code thingy. Downloading now...
1-8-2007 6:28 PM
Godfrey Daniel
Well, my comment was in response to the contradiction between the book title, and your depiction of the nature of the author's view of religion.

It's of on-going amusement to me that the left seems to think they can portray what is essentially a resurgence of US culture as it existed prior to the late sixties in response to attempts to put the final nail in its coffin, as the rise of fascism; as something new, and with no one taking notice of what they're up to, and of its disingenuous and cynical nature.

Traditional American culture is fighting to survive. The immune system is being called the virus by the virus.
1-8-2007 6:30 PM
tpq62
That darn Civil Rights Movement.
1-8-2007 6:34 PM
Godfrey Daniel
What? are you on the right clip?
1-8-2007 8:21 PM
tpq62
Just injecting a little history into your bubble-headed discussion of "traditional American culture." Just a little though. I got more if you want.
1-8-2007 8:52 PM
Godfrey Daniel
Where would you get the idea that I might be unaware of the civil rights movement? Just a very odd comment. Followed by an odder one.
1-8-2007 11:25 PM
tpq62
Well why don't you tell us about this (*ahem*) "traditional American culture," the one that predates the 1960s? Who are the Americans that have this culture? What are a couple of its traditions? Tell us how someone like you gets to decide what is and isn't "traditional" American culture?
1-8-2007 11:52 PM
Godfrey Daniel
Someone forgot to notify me that I had been given that power. Where did you hear this? And again, some very strange questions? Are you new to this country? If so there are lots of sources of info on this period in your local public library, or right here on the Internets.

Here's an innovative site that might me of great help.
1-9-2007 6:28 AM
lonely_planet
No Godfrey, you forgot to remind yourself that you did NOT posess that power.

"Traditional American culture is fighting to survive..."

"a resurgence of US culture as it existed prior to the late sixties"

just thought I would help you figure out what tpq62 is talking about. It appears the scroll bar on your browser is not functioning.
1-9-2007 9:07 AM
Socratoad
Aw shucks, ya gotta miss the good ole robber baron days.

But just give these good ole knuckle-dragging born agin pseudo fascists half a chance and they will repeal the enlightenment.
1-9-2007 11:53 AM
tpq62
"And answer, came there none"
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