Pre-RNC raids: so who hates freedom now?

who hates freedom now?

Apparently the fascists and anarchists wishing to inhibit the ability of the RNC to peaceably assemble.
I hope they do not use rubber bullets and tasers if needed.
These anarchist disruptions are not liberty. We know the Left and Islamic terrorists are of equal mind and capability. Turning a blind eye is nothing more than you hoping people are disrupted and perhaps harmed in the process of RNC's peaceful assembly.
I am so thankful that I find myself in the philosophic company of those with a higher thinking process. Keep your bumper sticker mentality confined to the bumpewr of your car. These people are dangerous idiots and deserve to be treated as dangerous idiots.

8-31-2008 2:58 AM

ratilfar

Leave it to the GOPers to be afraid of things like protest. We defend the freedoms that you don't have any right to use.

8-31-2008 3:12 AM

The REAL Napster

Yeah like the right to show those TV spots that Obama tried to get the DOJ to block?

8-31-2008 8:46 AM

These anarchist disruptions are not liberty. We know the Left and Islamic terrorists are of equal mind and capability.

That gives the rest of us a good sense of how seriously to take your "arguments," willhelm. Remember, we're talking about a couple dozen college kids on bikes with signs, no evidence whatsoever of any violent intent. The cops were directed to search for things like paint and cardboard. I don't think they were really going to pose much of a threat to the RNC. And don't worry, I realize the DNC was guilty of the same kind of thing. This is just a much more extreme form. willhelm, your position genuinely surprises me.

8-31-2008 9:07 AM

Enbar, I clipped this as well, if you watch the videos and interviews, these raids were so ridiculous! Wilhelms new thing is referring to people as "anarchists" now, even called me one because I was advocating peace. Some "libertarian"!
http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/34CCF42E-01FD-48DC-A380-3027D750DEEB/

8-31-2008 9:25 AM

tabsey

hehehe

Good clip, too.

8-31-2008 12:44 PM

darkduskx

Pre-emptive arrests. It's only natural...

8-31-2008 1:26 PM

What position is that, enbar?

8-31-2008 1:39 PM

By the way, sahara. I only refer to you as an anarchist because you admitted you were one.

8-31-2008 1:45 PM

ratilfar

Yeah like the right to show those TV spots that Obama tried to get the DOJ to block?

Have you asked yourself, is there a legal basis for the challenge? Because if their is a violation of law, you would like the law to be enforced, right? I mean that is what I keep hearing from the law & order party. Now, if you are making and argument that the legal reasoning is faulty or that the law(s) is unjust or unconstitutional, I will like to hear them.

Not the same as raiding homes with no legal justification (or flimsy ones at that) just to intimidate protesters who have committed no crimes or have no plans to do so.

As for Willie, oh well, tribal leaders always need attack dogs. The more rabid the better.

8-31-2008 1:46 PM

ratilfar

"Anarchist"? Wait a minute a "libertarian" is calling other people "anarchist", now that is a laugh! But then again, Willie and dictionaries don't really get along, now do they?

8-31-2008 1:48 PM

you admitted you were one

Where?

8-31-2008 2:35 PM

@willhelm... I've walked into this little trap of yours sufficiently often for it not to be amusing any more -- I mean the gambit where I restate what you said in your first comment and then you accuse me of putting words in your mouth. I mean the position that any reasonable English-speaking person would conclude that you espouse, based on your first comment. The point is, none of these people -- people whose homes were broken into by a squad of cops in riot gear with shotguns, who were cuffed and made to lie on the floor with weapons aimed at them, who asked to see a warrant and were then threatened with incarceration, and so forth -- has been charged with a crime, except for two charges o...

8-31-2008 3:12 PM

Well, I'll tell you what enbar, since you cannot string together a response to my comments without basing my opinions and comments on some caricature of your preconceived notions or, perhaps, some bigoted presupposition, then why bother responding at all. It is not unfair for me to ask.
I did not reveal a "position". I very seldom do. I generally offer an opinion. Big difference. I know it is very difficult for those of you on the Left, including anarchists like sahara, to separate a comment from one's position or values.
However, the matter is quite simple. If these anarchist's constitutional rights were violated, then I would suggest they pursue a course of action that strings some bur...

8-31-2008 3:15 PM

If 9/11 had never happened because the government had stepped in
apprehended the perpetrators, then I'm sure you would be equally
outraged.

That sounds bad. Let me clarify.

You would be outraged that the assailants were apprehended, not that 9/11 was prevented. You would say, "all the had were airline tickes, cloths, and a box-cutter or two. "

9-1-2008 12:31 AM

"The 'Welcoming Committee' is a criminal enterprise made up of 35
anarchists who are intent on committing criminal acts before and during
the Republican National Convention,"

See? Sahara displays the usual propagandist lunacy of pretending a a particular word has no meaning aside from being an epithet. Like fascist, anarchist, progressive, communist. It all part of the delusion and inability to think clearly and know what you are talking about.

9-1-2008 7:57 AM

Once again, willhelm, you display your profound ignorance with your over use of words with ists and isms, to fit people into boxes of ideologies you attach labels to them whether these adjectives suit the individual or not. For some time here in cm I have watched you attempt to defame our fellow clippers with words like materialist, Trotskyite, fascists, socialist, and now anarchist. Your improper and perpetual use of these words dilute their meanings and show your contempt for any individual whose opinions do not align with your own. That anarchists do not exist is not my argument, it is your intellectual dishonesty in using such a word that I take issue with.

9-1-2008 8:03 AM

Also, if you were paying attention, I had actually tried to warn people of provocateurs (and a specific anarchist group as well, who had a website with "plans" drawn up, it was taken down within a day of the article) disrupting peaceful protests at both conventions, namely the DNC, because that was the focus on the article I had clipped, but the link referred to these same people pulling stuff at the RNC as well. I had clipped the site with plans, etc., and after the link was dead, I removed the clip, it was up for at least one day.

9-1-2008 8:06 AM

http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/F1FF9DB1-73BB-43EB-BF4A-E2F43D975BF3/

9-1-2008 8:31 AM

@#$%&

I put up a very brilliant and incisive comment and it got lost. Whoops. I can't try to reconstruct it now.

9-1-2008 11:10 AM

It is easy responding to the doofus left of papananook, masbury, jklugman, boobyrutan, ratilfar etc.

But the intelligent ones (enbar and ouyangwulong), you guys are keeping are keeping me busy. I hope you don't mind my shortness as it is a holiday weekend and I'm kind of just not interested.

9-1-2008 1:27 PM