 kmcolo says: You see the error in this reasoning is this that the statement - the only thing government can to do in regard to recessions is lengthen them - is stated as fact when it is itself far from established. This clipper is notorious for bogus information and false logic. What if this recession lasts longer than the average? Is this an average recession? Consider who was in office during the first 13 months of this recession. Is that administration reflective of all the other administrations during recessionary periods? Lord I hope not. - the only thing government can to do in regard to recessions is lengthen them -You're right. That is a mis-statement. Sure, there are some things governments can do to minimize the length and severity of recessions, though it is minimal. Historically, it hasn't been the course of those in office, especially during the FDR years when everytime things started to look rosy, Roosevelt clubbed the nation over the head with more spending. Eventually, when the USSC ruled his NRA was unconstitutional, things began to improve. Recessions are natural. They will happen regardless of whether we have practiced superior economic policy or deficient economic policy. Recessions will even... Really not sure what History book in Willhelm's anti-universe he reads from. I guess we are to assume that the period of when things started to appear rosy is 1937 and FDR spending is to blame for the 13 month recession that followed. The reality is that Roosevelt was convinced to do the "responsible" thing and cutback which resulted in 13 month recession. And this is the one area that the FDR revisionists point to to make their arguments. But don't listen to me, this is the analysis of a Nobel winning Economist. So erroneously claiming that increased spending caused the rosy picture to dissipate, in an agenda driven effort to discredit FDR, is truly the definition of intellectual dishon... Hey km, did you have to clip Willie's clip because he is too much of a chickens**t to have others comment on his clips? chickens**t to have others comment on his clips?you mean too chickens**t to let everyone comment on my clips except kmcolo? And by the way, I never said I was about to retire. I'm never going to retire. And, the economy was on fire in 2007, despite incredibly high oil prices, two wars, political division, and a moron in the White House. Hey KM did you have to clip Willie's clip because he too much of a chickensh**t to debate you on his own clips, as he has done to others? And that is one quote I certainly wish I had saved before the Clipmarks server crash that destroyed so much great history that kept some people honest whether they wanted to be or not. It's amazing, in another recent clip comment you argued that you would never have said something like that, yet today you are only disowning half the quote. Consistency is definitely not your strong suit. I would never say that because I would never want to retire. That does not mean that I couldn't. Heh, I'd like to see a list of how many people willhelm restricts from commenting in his clips. Might be an eye opener. BR, yup. Yesterday was hard on that other side of wilhelm we often get here. That guy's ego was needing a break so after deleting many of my comments and accusing me of saying things in them that I had not he banned me. At this point it's sort of a whatever. Questioning whether the same condition is in place today is valid. Pretending the question is not valid is intellectually dishonestPretending that the question is fact is intellectually dishonest. Never question The Willhelm for that will bring forth much waling and gnashing of teeth! Well the conservonuts can only take so much being called on the carpet for the hypocristy and inconsistency. Appears, merrie reached her cognitive dissonance breaking point. I use to admire her for adopting the stance that most of the progressive clippers have adopted, which is to allow everyone to have their say and debate on the merits. Yet I was banned from commenting on her clips after pointing out both her and dl211's hypocrisy. I wonder what John Wayne would think about these "tough" guys? Willie's comment on the economy in 2007 was at the end of the year after the Dow had dropped 2000 points off its high and most intellectually honest people had realized the bubble had burst. But hey........... whatever. I guess now that the "market place of ideas" has turned decidedly against their particular brand, it suddenly isn't so interesting. Sure, I invite everyone I block to say so here, go ahead. I fogot about you oortclout. Any others? BobbyRutan is a liar. I do not block him. So there is oortcloud and kmcolo. You two are in great company, kmcolo. I think maybe Dorkface too. Total 3. The three biggest idiots, who practice nothing but disingenuous trolling. Kmcolo sent me a groveling email apologizing for his stupidity, so I thought he would be interested in intellectual engagement. He wasn't. BR says: Well the conservonuts can only take so much being called on the carpet for the hypocristy and inconsistency.I do not block: Debbyski - she blocks me Masbury - he blocks me Dulios - she blocks me Ratilfar - It b... .... You are just an idiot liar, BR, worse than JK it appears. Oh, and I do not block Altlib. He blocks me. I see a good nights rest has not brought back the rational wilhelm. I guess now that the "market place of ideas" has turned decidedlyKmcolo, After the facts I just presented, which brand are you talking about, idiot. I block: No one Block me: wilhelm pkronfield Sorry that those two can't take the heat. And I very much respect those that strongly disagree with my stance yet do not block me. I guess now that the "market place of ideas" has turned decidedlyI ask again, moron, which brand are you talking about? Has your opinion changed now that the facts have changed? kmcolo, Look at the people that I DO NOT block. You're not in that group. Look at the people I DO block. You are in that group. Look at the people who block me. What group am I in? Now, who fits this comment: I guess now that the "market place of ideas" has turned decidedly And I very much respect those that strongly disagree with my stance yet do not block me.I think it is hilarious that you believe you actually offer engaging, interesting, thoughtful, and sincere points. You do not. If I did not challenge you, wilhelm, you would not block me. And I very much respect those that strongly disagree with my stance yet do not block me.Oh, kmcolo, you are so sad. I'm sorry for your extremely fragile state of mind. I love engaging enbar, ouyangwulong, jklugman, deb2012, abailart, baydawg, tommy2balmy, bartendingbear, etc. You are not in that league. Your input is petty and disingenous. It is bordline trolling. Again, review. Which side is against the market place of ideas? Yawn. Yes, facts are not very interesting, are they? Same old garbage. I've been blocked on Willies clips for months and so the day he gets called out he flips the switch. What a lying sack o' scat. I don't know how he lives with himself. I've been blocked by: willhelm dl211 pkronfield merrie n2sooners and others that have faded away I seem to recall that we have already been through this where I provided the direct quote that willhelm would never block "ANYONE" that only the leftists would and then he set out to prove himself a liar, once again, time after time. willhelm, the victim child, who was pointed out to be the rudest clipper on clipmarks. You know, for someone who claims such superior mental powers he has the worst damn memory. ... Oh, and thisnamecantne taken, blocks me. I have no idea why those other clippers block you wilhelm. I know why you block me though... Once again, its the market place of ideas, and you don't want a competing product in your store. BR, I do not block you . You are lying. I provided the entire list of who I block, oortcloud corrected me and I stood corrected. Is there anyone else? Bobbyrutan can rattle of his lying hate all he wants - facts are facts. I provide the extensive truth and facts above. WOW, ISN"T THAT "TELLING"? Do my statements of what is "telling" get to you wilhelm? Do they stimulate your ego into protecting you? I know why you block me though... Once again, its the market place ofHow does that comment fit with the facts that I seek out discussions wiht Jklugman, ouyangwulong, deb2012, abailart, bartendingbear, enbar, and the list goes on.... and, how does it fit with the fact that I do not block ratilfar, bobbyrutan, masbury, debbyski, thisnamecnatbetaken, dmgivern, atllib, dulios, and others who block me that, again, I DO NOT BLOCK? Yes, facts are not very interesting, are they?that's about the most honest thing willhelm has admitted to. Willy blocked me after I handed him his ass when he tried to convince himself that atheism is a religion ... or was it his ridiculous rantings on first cause. Either way, willhelm is a blowhard and finds it more convenient to block the people that continually expose him for the intellectual midget he is. oortcloud corrected me and I stood corrected.That almost floored me LOL. Too bad he really doesn't accept superior argument like he implies there. I blocked willhelm because he blocked me. I don't clip that often to worry that he'd post, I just did it... You don't block me today. So you are not lying at this moment. Denying that you have been blocking me for months is a pure lie and it's something your conscious will have to deal with those facts. I've never been fearful of commenting on your or anyone else's clips so why don't you provide for me the last comment I made on one of your clips and the date it was made chickensh**t. See, kmcolo, that comment by oortcloud is you in a nutshell. No substance just rattling off some bovine scatology and pretending that he can actually have a discussion. Again, look at who I most often engage and who I do not block. Again, I block You, kmcolo, oortcloud, and dorkfarce. It is hilarious that you and oortcloud believe you are so excellent at the art of "handing me my ass" in comparison to those who can from time to time make substantive arguments. How does that comment fit with...I didn't say you are irrational all the time or with everyone. But you certainly do resort to this sort of irrationality when, as I've mentioned in other comments, you are given facts that conflict directly with what I assume are cherished beliefs. Bobbyrutan, you constantly say I block you. Your just full of crap. Is there anyone else I would not admit to blocking? Oortcloud corrected me and I stood corrected. Anyone else? kmcolo, you are so bound up in your own self pity that you can do nothing but rationalize the facts to fit your preconceived notions. Nice comeback... Well, not really. By the way kmcolo, look at oortcloud's comment very closely. That is you. I almost suspect you two are one. Back to denial, kmcolo? Your therapy was going so well. You almost completed all the stage of denial, anger, bargaining, depression, then......oh so close to acceptance. I don't recall using the term "handed him his ass" I'm more likely to say "schooled him". And I have not made a decision on whether atheism is a form of faith or not. So we are quite different in the first few sentences alreasy. Back to denial, kmcolo? Your therapy was going so well. You almost completed all the stage of denial, anger, bargaining, depression, then......oh so close to acceptance.Too many comments now, not sure what you are reacting to here. Besides your groveling email where you practically begged me to unblock you, you were very contrite and apologetic. What happened? Can't control your lunacy? It just comes natural? what? You have chosen to hide comments by willhelm. show »Oh, got you. I've already address the email of apology I sent to you because I dropped you as a friend in facebook (which was independent of you having blocked me and unblocked me before). Do you want to go through that again? But you certainly do resort to this sort of irrationality when, as I'veYou are an idiot, kmcolo. See my very first comment on this clip. Once again "telling" that willie dropped any attempt of reconciling his misunderstanding of economic events in 2007 and has resorted to the typical banal, unsupportable "no you are" quibbling. Can you imagine what life must be like in that household? Yes, good. That was a cherished belief? But still, when faced with facts on your clips yesterday you resorted to deleting comments and then misrepresenting those comments, then when confronted, you banned my commenting. This is of course your right and that is fine. But your reaction fits the MO of one who's ego, left without an argument, reacts to protect the self. Can you imagine what life must be like in that household?My thought is that life there is actually quite good. I deleted you comment because it was a personal attack. I already schooled you on the meaning or reaction....remember? And you are doing it again. This etire clip nad subsequent comments on JK's clip are all a "reaction" to your hurt feelings. Are you going to block me from facebook again? How quickly you forget. But still, when faced with facts on your clipsAnd what "facts" were those, kmcolo? "life there is actually quite good".... ha, as long as you have 24/7 video recording to scan through to show the inevitable lies that are told...... I deleted you comment because it was a personal attack.This is not true unless you consider pointing out what underlies your reaction (hitting me with 2x4s) as a personal attack. I said you could not get a point if it whacked you across the face with a 2X4. Your comment above is a perfect illustration of why I do not want your garbage comments on my clips. Might be fun to look through this clip once again. I feel like it's Groundhog Day http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/F472D53A-F4D0-4B29-A875-39BE9900E8A6/ That was then. And only briefly. I do not block ratilfar and I do not block you. You took you first step willie, now continue to search your soul, it will be tough but you no life is better when you are not a liar. If I blocked you in the distant past, then I apologize. I did not remember. I do know that you have continued to say that I block you when I do not and have not in a long time. Man, this really gets under your skin, doesn't it. Look at the list of those who block me. For cryin' out loud. It doesn't bother me at all. Geez you people are nuts. Also, notice the herd menatality of the Left. You never see this from thos of us on the right. You need each other to stroke you ego and validate your lunacy. It is interesting to read these combination of comments and clips: You [wilhelm] constantly fail to do this with your relentless attacks on the left. That is why you and n2sooners are the two most blocked people on the site. I really don't think it's because of what you think, but because of how you express your thoughts. You are quite often mean and rude to others on the site and i don't it's appreciated. I know it's not appreciated by me.emph. added And this: “It is a painful thing to look at your own trouble and know that you yourself and no one else has made it.”And yet we still get the general tenor of victimhood from you on this and in the old thread, wilhelm. Correct wording is "do not remember" which is obvious. You pulled this exact same stunt the last time. As soon as you were called on the carpet you unflipped the block. I made one comment and you blocked me again. Some sort of perverse pleasure for you I am sure. If you weren't such a pompous ass I'm sure people wouldn't bother pointing out your consistent lying and inaccuracies. “It is a painful thing to look at your own trouble and know that you yourself and no one else has made it.”WOW !!! This says volumes. I don't think being blocked at clipmarks is "trouble" or "painful". Wow, you are more of basket-case than I thought. Just for the record on your previous comment, EG, never provided an example of what he was talking about. He said he could not think of one or find one. He too emailed me. I think egoldstein might not like my tone in many respects, but I also think he now beleives that I am not blocked because of it. Also, tone is very subjective. A really petty and insecure reason to block someone. On the other hand, civility is best maintained by sincerity and sincerity can come in many forms. Also, tone is very subjective. A really petty and insecure reason to block someone.Well there you have it. Well there you have it.See, you just cannot handle it can you? I provided a list of those I block, which is practically noone. What do they all have in common, three dorkfarce, kmcolo, and oortcloud? You all lack sincerity. Your tone has absolutely nothing to do with it. I love everyone's tone. You can measure sincerity by tone. Kmcolo, I am really beginning to feel a bit sorry for you. I hope you can get over the travesty of being blocked soon. This is not healthy for you. “It is a painful thing to look at your own trouble and know that you yourself and no one else has made it.” WOW !!! This says volumes. I don't think being blocked at clipmarks is "trouble" or "painful". Wow, you are more of basket-case than I thought. Hypocrisy ain't a river in Egypt. Regards... Kmcolo said: Hypocrisy ain't a river in Egypt.Kmcolo said: I guess now that the "market place of ideas" has turned decidedlyI provided the facts and you rationalized them to fit your needs. I returned the question and you hedged and insisted they may have had a reason due to tone, a very subjective thing. Hypocrisy? Kmcolo said: This is not true unless you consider pointing out what underlies your reaction (hitting me with 2x4s) as a personal attack.I provided the facts about what I said, which was in context, and not even remotely close to the way you presented it. Hypocrisy?... Do my statements of what is "telling" get to you wilhelm? Do they stimulate your ego into protecting you?The facts as presented are what is telling. Your statements say nothing. Your tone does say something, and your insincerity is tiresome. More hypocrisy. I provided the facts...And I questioned those "facts" and provided evidence that those facts should be questioned. We have no idea why those others have banned you commenting. All you and I can come to any conclusion on is why you are banning me. I have provided evidence based in psychology as to why I think you would do such. You counter with a list of people who have banned you as evidence that you did not ban me for the reasons I derived. That does not follow. And we don't know why they banned you though there is evidence to suggest it was for reasons other than your opinion. I displayed absolutely ZERO victimhood.I would disagree. I think the numbe... All you and I can come to any conclusion on is why you are banning me.Exactly !!, and the fact you are on the same list as oortcloud, dorkface, should tell you something. It certainly does not lend credibility to your insane drivol that you "challenge" me, given that I seek good debate with those I mentioned above like, ooyangwulong, abailart, jk, deb2012, etc, etc. And I questioned those "facts"What facts have you questioned? The facts are who I block and who I do not block. I would disagree. I think the number of comments, sometimes several in a row, and their vehemence suggest otherwise.That just supports the idea that you are a moron. How do I pretend to be a victim? I don't give a shit who blocks or why !! Apparently it turns your world inside out. To some degree I'm sure it is, because here I still am. But I know IWelcome to the pain. Might I suggest sincerity as a starting point to learning. Peace to you, Wilhelm. Peace to you. I almost suspect you two are one.I hear that a lot from people that can't maintain their discussion. It's almost like they can't accept the fact they are singular in their delusions. LOL willhelm the continual assclown. Well I've wasted enough time here. I'm sure nothing has changed. Dulios - she blocks meI removed all of my "blocks" a while ago. I see you just popped a clip of mine recently, so I'm surprised you didn't notice. Just out of curiosity, is there a quick way you can find out who has blocked you from commenting on their clips? By the way, I don't think there is anyone I've banned on mine, except for possibly some spammer commenters. I removed all of my "blocks" a while ago. I see you just popped a clip of mine recently, so I'm surprised you didn't notice.You can still pop comments when you are blocked from commenting. It seems like you should know that. You mean to tell me there are no right wingers that block you. NAAAHH! I mean pop clips. Clippers could just come right out and be honest about it. I have. You will see that 90% of the blockis, I'll bet, are by left wingers blocking opinion. My blocks block insincere trolling. I block absolutely no one that blocks me. Only oortcloud, dorkfarce, and kmcolo. There was one clipper a while back that egoldstein banned that was all about Je bashing, I blocked him too, but I don't remember his screen name. I see you just popped a clip of mine recently, so I'm surprised you didn't notice.Also, thanks for pointing that out, dulios. It seems leftists have a hard time popping clips they may like because of the clipper. I still pop clips by all the people who prevent me from commenting. I notice the same thing about others on the right. The Left cannot seem to bring themselves, generally, to pop a clip by those who they disagree politically. Oh and Kore7 blocks me. Of course, that is the least surpising of all. You were one of only a few people whom I've blocked, willie, and it wasn't because of your political opinions. And if you really want a cackle look at the reason I was banned from commenting on Masbury's clips. What we basically have here is bunch of projection by the hate-wing and accusations of hypocrisy by blatant hypocrites. This has been fun and I hope it causes more blocking to go on. You were one of only a few people whom I've blocked, willie, and it wasn't because of your political opinions.Sure, you are blowhard that cannot accept a conservative point of view and a tone that crushes your ego. You blocked me because and only because of my opinion. Period. You said you recently removed all of your blocks. I imagine they were also politically motivated. Don't lie dulios. It rings very hollow given that you and dmgivern are so inept at expressing clear thinking and logic. You were one of only a few people whom I've blocked, willie, and it wasn't because of your political opinions. /eom Oh, ok, then who else did you block? Don't lie willy. You blocked me because you when you failed to argue your case you resulted to name calling and insult and when I turned it back on you it ended with you blocking me. Be a coward if you choose, but don't lie about it. Oortcloud, I blocked you for the same reason that I blocked kmcolo and dorkfarce. You are an idiot. I don't like wasting my time with idiots. Aceslucky makes many of the same arguments as you do. He is slightly more intelligent. And, though not very bright, I believe he is sincere. He also is better at presenting his views, as are many others, like tommy2balmy, that argue your cause. The simple fact is that I do not like wasting my time with insincere idiots, or 12 years olds up past their bed time. Wee Willie is proud of the number of people who block him. Um, Dulios, then who else did you block? |
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