 n2sooners says: Seems all you have to do to be considered a right wing extremist according to Obama's DHS is disagree with Obama in any way whatsoever. And when the Obamacorps Volunteer Force comes knocking at your door you had better have a picture of His Chosenness up in your house or you will be on the list. Well, when the goverment gets to define who is and who isn't a terrorist, these things tend to happen. And BTW, there is a long history of right-wing terrorism in the U.S. (as extremist left-wing), so the warning is not out of place. Are you planning to blow up any federal buildings? I'm a pro-life, NRA member, and veteran, who believes in smaller government and state's rights, opposes big government and illegal immigration, and who is worried about our economy and the more than perceived job losses. I also cling to my Bible, guns, family, and paycheck. Maybe this administration is right to consider me a threat since they are opposed to everything I and many others stand for. Again, are you planning to shoot at any cops? Blow up a federal building or send anthrax through the mail? Does your personal political platform includes carrying attacks on the federal goverment or officials thereof? So, what you are saying is you don't mind warrantless wire taping of domestic phone calls? I do. Which is what is going on, even before this "alert" came up. Or do you think it is going to start NOW. You reap what you sow. Memo to you all: It is unconstitutional, no one should have that power, NO ONE!So, you are a liar as well as a hypocrite. Wait, did I say I was for it? NO. And I have been consistent on that score. Please don't twist my words. Such dishonesty does not become you. If anything, the current situation if of the Republicans own making. By tilting so much power to the Executive. Now you are complaining when that power may be turned against you. A tad late by far.... That is the truth of my words. No one can be trusted with such powers. You trusted Bush because you thought he was on your side. And now you fear Obama because you think he is not. Instead of looking for tribal loyalties you should focus on the current bal... The only hypocrites here are the far-right conservatives who backed the Executive when it gobbled more and more power under the aegis of the "Imperial Presidency" and now, out of power are panicking that those powers could be used against them. News flash, the domestic spying has been going on for years, arrest and torture of American citizens (Padilla) also for years. What do you think those lawsuits were all about? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlZ20rUZVus Ahhh, so you aren't a liar, just a hypocrite. You are against the government spying on it's citizens unless those citizens happen to have a different political view than you, then you just lump them all together and say they had it coming to them. BTW, I never supported the government targeting it's own citizens without a warrant. I knew that was a slippery slope. I didn't oppose the warrantless wire tapping of suspected terrorists that weren't citizens, but never warrantless wire tapping of citizens even if they were suspects. A hypocrite? I'm not supporting any such thing. Just stating the fact that those NOW complaining about all this, even though they were warned this could happen (as I have done here in the past). In fact what you describe is exactly what the Republicans have supported for the last eight years under the guise of fighting terrorism and that is exactly what happens (and continues to happen). That slippery slope you mentioned, well guess what, you already slipped. I didn't oppose the warrantless wire tapping of suspected terrorists that weren't citizens, but never warrantless wire tapping of citizens even if they were suspects.Examples of this would be nice. That makes no sen... The program was actually started under Clinton. But back to the topic of this thread. What is your stance now because your back and forth is confusing. Do you support the profiling of anyone who is politically opposed to this administration or not? Your first response was "Do you plan on blowing up any buildings?" Which basically relays the message that if you don't have anything to hide then what are you worried about. Seems to me all you are doing here is trying to stir up shit without ever directly answering the question at hand. What are you doing, running for press secretary? If so, don't forget to forget to file your taxes.  Under Clinton? Really? No I don't support it. But it seems mighty hypocritical that: a) a movement that continues to violently agitate against the goverment b) and that backed all manner of non-Constitutional measure when they were in power c) are now complaining as if this was all new to them. So, right-wing extremist exists and they pose a danger. The police should consider that and deal with it accordingly (within the bounds of the Constitution). And second that you reap what you sow. That was my point from the beginning. So, right-wing extremist exists and they pose a dangerBullshit. you reap what you sowOnce again you show what a hypocrite you are. First of all it is true, whether you want to admit it or not. And second, go look at the definition of hypocrite. I remained consistent in my views. Those included warning that this sort of thing could happen. The real hypocrites are those that are NOW complaining as if this all new to them and playing the victim. If you don't want to accept the facts before you, that is up to you. You can not give the goverment indefinite power to violate the law of the land and then complain when the focus is turned on you. First of all it is true, whether you want to admit it or not.Then maybe you should educate the writers of the DHS report which states: (U//LES) The DHS/Office of Intelligence and Analysis (I&A) has no specific information that domestic rightwing* terrorists are currently planning acts of violence, but rightwing extremists may be gaining new recruits by playing on their fears about several emergent issues.Perhaps you could enlighten us at to what you know that the DHS doesn't. That also brings up the point that this entire attack on mainstream conservatives was fabricated without any evidence whatsoever of violence or planned violence by any conservatives ... Five minutes of Glenn Beck is all the recruiting video you need. Also this language sounds no different that hundreds of other so called warning in the past, except that instead of "Muslims" you have "Right-wing". As for the hypocrite thing.... Oh really? How nice that you can tell me what values I hold. Also I hold people accountable to their actions. That is the whole point you are missing. It is the conservatives who are crying about this who are inconsistent in their "values". When the target was somebody else they had not problem with it, but now that it could bite them in the ass their crying. If anything it is exactly what I and many other predicted would happen when the Bush... Oh and apparently you didn't read or understood what I wrote on my blog on how Obama now owns this whole mess based on his defense (and expansion there in) of the "state secrets" concept and failure to prosecute administration criminal actors. Admit it. What you don't like is that you are now or could be in the proverbial cross hairs. The real question is not why it bother you now, that is understandable, as you yourself have pointed out, you seem to fit all the vague descriptors in this missive by the DHS. The question is why didn't it bother you then? Five minutes of Glenn Beck is all the recruiting video you need. Also this language sounds no different that hundreds of other so called warning in the past, except that instead of "Muslims" you have "Right-wing".So, free speech = danger? You said, "right-wing extremist exists and they pose a danger." And then you present a talk show host (one that isn't any more extreme than any of those on MSNBC at that) as proof conservatives are dangerous? Why do you fear free speech? And your double talk doesn't cut it. You can't say you oppose the government doing this type of thing out of one side of your mouth while saying you deserve it out of the other side of your mouth. That wou... Free speech? No free speech does not equal danger (I hope you never said that war protesters were aiding and abetting the enemy). Same host that said that TV and video games lead to violence yet his endless scaremongering is OK? What happened to Rights & Responsibilities? One thing is to say something crazy, stupid or bizarre. He has the right to say it, and I have to right to call him out on it. Somewhere along the line a constant stream of propaganda stops being just free speech. Especially when it is an entire channel doing it and not just Beck. Plus a bunch of bloggers/Fox News "experts" like Michelle Malkin and their ilk. And we know people believe this stuff and have already ki... Cont.... Assuming that Gore had acted as Bush. Or maybe anti-Afghan war, or some such. So,not only am against it, I am also (no contradiction here) calling out those who all of the sudden discovered this is wrong, not because of the act itself, but because they could be targeted by it. Not only that, but I warned about this. In fact the real problem with this missive is that is so vague, as all previous alerts have been (but didn't bother conservatives none) that it feeds into the paranoia of the far-right. |
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