James Hanson refuses to discuss views at William & Mary

It seems to me it would be no different to ask Martin Luther King to debate the KKK. He doesn't have time for that garbage. This same well balanced approach to global problems has led to the demise of the water resources in this country along with many other things of value. These growther know no end to their greed, and follow a path of destruction, but paid well to do so.

7-13-2008 1:29 PM

bferman

LoPhatt, the example you offer is a fascinating one since by todays standards MLK would be considered a Conservative. I believe it is the liberal Democrat party that currently has a former "official recruiter" for the KKK among its ranks in Robert Byrd. Byrd actually filibustered (for more than 14 hours) the landmark 1964 Civil Rights Act which was supported by a majority of Republicans at the time.

Regardless, you seem to be arguing that liberal ideas should not be challenged by science, but instead should be accepted without question. I (and no doubt the whole of the scientific community) would argue that our understanding of science continually evolves and as such should be challenged as new theories emerge.

7-13-2008 2:12 PM

bferman said:

since by todays standards MLK would be considered a Conservative.

Martin Luther King, talking about the Vietnam War said:

"God didn't call America to engage in a senseless, unjust war. . . . And we are criminals in that war. We've committed more war crimes almost than any nation in the world, and I'm going to continue to say it. And we won't stop it because of our pride and our arrogance as a nation. But God has a way of even putting nations in their place...[God will say:] And if you don't stop your reckless course, I'll rise up and break the backbone of your power."[1][/quo...
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7-13-2008 8:47 PM

Oh yes there is a problem and it's called lying and cheating for personal gain. Every time these growthers tell you some research needs more study, what they are rally trying to say is the general belief doesn't fit their agenda.

7-13-2008 9:04 PM

LoPhatt, the example you offer is a fascinating one since by todays
standards MLK would be considered a Conservative. I believe it is the
liberal Democrat party that currently has a former "official recruiter"
for the KKK among its ranks in Robert Byrd. Byrd actually filibustered
(for more than 14 hours) the landmark 1964 Civil Rights Act which was
supported by a majority of Republicans at the time.

This is an excellent point, bferman. And , as JK points out, he stood up against the Left in a broad spectrum of circumstances. MLK did not fit the Progressive mold. He was an incramentalist on the side of liberty and personal responsibility. He said so many times. Many words of M...

7-13-2008 9:28 PM

you just get it all wrong,
over and over...

http://npat.newsvine.com/_news/2008/07/12/1660340-re-the-ucs-a-to-z-guide-to-political-interference-in-science

7-14-2008 1:44 AM

willhelm said:

He was an incramentalist on the side of liberty and personal responsibility. He said so many times. Many words of MLK put him to the right of Ronald Reagan.

[quote=Martin Luther King, in his 1967 "Where Do We Go From Here" speech]Communism forgets that life is individual. Capitalism forgets that life is social, and the kingdom of brotherhood is found neither in the thesis of communism nor the antithesis of capitalism but in a higher synthesis. It is found in a higher synthesis that combines the truths of both. Now, when I say question the whole society, it means ultimately coming to see that the problem of racism, the problem of exploitation, and...

7-14-2008 1:45 AM

willhelm said:

He was an incramentalist on the side of liberty and personal responsibility. He said so many times. Many words of MLK put him to the right of Ronald Reagan.

Martin Luther King, in his 1967 Where Do We Go From Here speech said:

Communism forgets that life is individual. Capitalism forgets that life is social, and the kingdom of brotherhood is found neither in the thesis of communism nor the antithesis of capitalism but in a higher synthesis. It is found in a higher synthesis that combines the truths of both. Now, when I say question the whole society, it means ultimately coming to see that the problem of racism, the problem of exploitation, and the problem of war are...
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7-14-2008 7:18 AM

Some people are happy to state their personal concept of the worldly events, past, present or future. Why is it some feel a need to embellish their view by tagging other peoples thoughts to fit distorted views? Regan was a wannabe fascist pig, King was not anything like that, except in warped mind with a twisted view of the world.

7-14-2008 8:58 AM

Inconveniet truths have a way of making one hold to talking points and revisionist history. On a clip about James Hanson's refusal to discuss his views, the Leftist lunacy the likes of Lophatt and his intellectual inferior sidekick JK piss all over themselves in self-delusion and reach for the stars to align themselves with MLK. Amusing.

7-14-2008 10:57 AM

But in the real world the debate is over no matter what your well balanced approach to casting doubt where your faith based agenda feels appropriate. Furthermore dogging everything you disagree with only shows your inability to get with the new trends that are prevailing today.

7-14-2008 11:15 AM

shows your inability to get with the new trends that are prevailing today.

New trends... Man, are you dingbat.

7-14-2008 12:06 PM

Many words of MLK put him to the right of Ronald Reagan.

Just out of curiosity, when did Martin Luther King express support for the apartheid regime in South Africa, like Ronald Reagan did?

7-14-2008 1:31 PM

Yes, we know JK, you are a marxist, which makes you a lover of Stalin, and a cheerleader for his purges and starving the Russian farmers.

7-14-2008 1:49 PM

Also, JK, If you cannot stick to the subject, then I will remove your comments from my clips. I find this trollish mentality to have a constant need to get off the subject and start issues irrelevant to the clip to be tiresome and immature. I know you are a slightly touched and a bit elementary in your reasoning skill, but I find your comments, when on the subject, useful and helpful to the clip and my understanding. It is the 90% of the time you spend injecting your hate, bigotry, and fascist bs that I am not interested in having on my clips. Thank you.

I think Lophatt's point, using MLK, was well made and I thing bferman's rebuttal was on the mark. Your offerings are just more of your ty...

7-14-2008 1:50 PM

...does this to such a degree.

I think clipmarks would be more enjoyable for everyone if you did not take it so seriously.

7-14-2008 5:28 PM

I think clipmarks would be more enjoyable for everyone if you did not take it all so seriously.

Actually, I think Clipmarks would be more enjoyable for you if people let you get away with making unproven & incorrect assertions.

If you don't want me to make off-topic comments, then don't make off-topic comments yourself. I was content with having made my point about bferman's comment until you chimed in with your MLK-RWR comparison.

But we all know being off-topic is not the real problem you have with my comments.

7-14-2008 7:02 PM

I have absolutely no problem with your comments whatsoever, other than what I stated. I'm confused by that comment unless you are saying that I pull my hair out over your relentless lying and idiotic comments, for example your assertion that I am a liar similar to you. All I ask is that you quit with the idiocy. In the context of the clip, lophatts comment was a good one and bfermans was equally good. Your comments were moronic and reveal you to be a raving irrational fanatic.

7-14-2008 7:10 PM