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6-23-2009 11:14 PM
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6-24-2009 12:21 AM
boniface
Also try "Ken's Guide to the Bible." Funny stuff in that book, I mean the bible.
6-25-2009 9:50 AM
Weary Observer
How to create a heresy? Very simple: as soon as one substitutes, God says, God commands, Holy Church teaches, with: Oh, I can't accept that, I don't think, I don't agree, but I think....and so on...the never ending: I, I, I, I, I....rather than God, God, God...

...because when it comes to the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church, to reject one is to reject all. One either believes, as the Act of Faith states, "all that the Holy Catholic Church believes AND teaches," or one is NOT a Catholic. It truly is, all or nothing. This is exactly the essence of Protestantism and every other false religion.

Many, many roil at that statement - but in it, I find great security. I love God...
6-25-2009 11:25 AM
boniface
Middle English heretik, from Old French heretique, from Late Latin haereticus, from Greek hairetikos, able to choose, factious, from hairetos, chosen, from haireisthai, to choose.

In other words, if you're able to THINK for yourself and decide to make decisions based on your thinking, rather than follow blindly what the church tells you, then you're a heretic and what you think is a heresy.
6-26-2009 12:16 AM
Efrain Alvarado
What makes you think we are not able to think for ourselves?

We freely and willfully accept ALL that the Revelation of God has given us through the Church. Quite simply we are able to freely deny what the Church teaches, like you did, but obviously we choose not to. We recognize that there is a greater good outside of ourselves, more than what we would be able to conclude on our own, so we rely on God and His Revelation, freely and absolutely.

6-26-2009 12:54 AM
boniface
I didn't pick the word, your church did. Take it up with the pope!
6-27-2009 10:42 AM
AcesLucky
Employ the means by which truth can be determined, and you will find heresy.
6-27-2009 10:53 AM
tanyamm
So what you are saying is that, how the Catholic Church interprets the Bible is the only way to be a true Christian. There were Christians long before the Catholic Church weren't there? Why over the centuries has the Church flip-flopped on some issues. Were they, wrong about some things. How could that happen?
6-27-2009 11:41 AM
jay8h
(2Pe 3:16) Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.
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6-27-2009 1:36 PM
boniface
@jay8h
Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things,

Translation: "I know stuff you don't and I'll tell what it is."

in which are some things hard to understand,

Translation: "Some of it doesn't make sense."

which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction,

Translation: "Which if people say 'hey that don't make sense' then they are stupid and crazy."

Which all amounts to, in total: "I know stuff that doesn't make sense and I'll tell it to you, but if you don't buy it, then you're stupid and crazy."

So, why should we even care what is guy says?
6-27-2009 2:21 PM
Efrain Alvarado
2 Pt 3:16 sums it all up. And the reason why we should care what this guy says is because we are speaking Christianity and Peter was taught first hand by Christ. If any body should know what Christ taught it would be this guy and the other Apostles.
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