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Ok. so it is an illusion. still we got the right to dream & the duty to participate ...... "They who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night." Edgar Allan Poe @syncopath Rights & duties are also a part of that illusion, as hope & fear, coherence & chaos ... Reality may be an illusion, but as far as this illusion may be considered as real. If we (u and i) agree on that, maybe it will be possible to consider that agreement as real too ... Or maybe : not ... You might care to look at the 'as if' philosophy of Hans Vaihinger. He argues that we can never know any fixed reality but we can behave, as you suggest, as if we do by agreement. The 'illusion' that language creates, rather than being a constraint, is a freedom since language is socially produced. ahh! the great "as if" , i love that..  and yes, that is freedom "Object" and "event" are notions about, or concepts concerning, the contents of certain regions of spacetime ; the commonsense distinction between them reflects how our phenomenal experience of space and time is given form both in our language and in the conceptual apparatus underpinning that language What about Pot, Am I really stoned? or is it someone else's buzz eh? There's nobody there but there is a whispering from under the sink next door, How can an illusion exist without us existing to be deceived by it? AND If we are deceived by "appearances", musn't we exist in order to apprehend falsely or accurately? If we are not really here, then the illusion is not really there. So the fact is the illusion is the illusion and the appearance is the a priori fact. So the fact is the illusion is the illusion and the appearance is the a priori fact.By illusion I mean the suggestion of the illusion. ooooooo so right now i'm tripping (seeing things) ooooooooooooo this ain't real help me i'm going crazy man! hi Teosoma - i rather argue with you (as if) on a similar dream than agree with u (as if) on a similar realness. concerning language abailart - here is a good one 4u  :"the finiteness of existence, when approach poetically, may become a source for many paths unto infinity....." (anonymous) ooooooo so right now I'm trippingWell, I'm a little spaced out too, but I am here. *LOL* The rest of you seem a little air-heady though. I'm very disillusioned. Determine the accuracy (A) of a “diagnosis” by calculating and comparing the offensive and defensive influence. Sum all offensive PUB-doubled-MHP plus non-PUB-doubled-MHP plus all offensive favor dr6 quantified influence and subtract the sum of all defensive PUB-doubled-MHP plus non-PUB-doubled-MHP plus all defensive favor dr6 quantified influence involved in the diagnostic battle. A = ( 2*å MHPPUB + å MHPnon-PUB + å dr6 )offensive - ( 2*å MHPPUB + å MHPnon-PUB + å dr6 )defensive If A is a positive number, then the “diagnosis” is accurate and the Defensive Player acquires the MD by conspicuously placing it in front of them, IP side up. This constitutes acquired IP. If A is a negative... @syncopath: nice quotation. More or less what wittgenstein would have said if he did not believe language is an illusion too! Homo Ludens, ludere, il-lude: games.... linguistic predicaments of Plato, Kant and the limits of knowingness suggested in tao teh king: 'to understand the limitation of things, desire them'. Aum. It was a funny sunday. A = ( 2*å MHPPUB + å MHPnon-PUB + å dr6 )offensive - ( 2*å MHPPUB + å MHPnon-PUB + å dr6 )defensiveI was gonna say that. *LOL* You too eh?  whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat????? Oh hey wait a minute- I am here- what's up with that? het meancookie- can I get a bag of that? Which bag! ohhhhhhhhh! yes!!!! oh gosh - unable to follow ALL the posts on this social stuff - gee --------------------------- syncopath - argue/agree is also a matter of neuromuscular tension - i'll agree to argue with u only if i may rest first - maybe for a loooong time --------------------------- ab we can never know any fixed reality but we can behave, as you suggest, as if we do by agreementAnd thats cool, because it means that i may relax and even fall asleep, even for a looong time, knowing that the Other will garantee the stability of my reality. The only question is : do i trust her/him ? If not, so "Reality" may become a very difficult problem to deal with. oh yeah, and tanx for the name Vaihinger ... Teo, if you don't trust him/her, the both of you do not exist in the same reality anyway FastT ---------------------- Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh !!!!!! Noooooooo !!! Not Cthulhu !!! With his multipedoncular mouth !!! Aaaaargh !!! Sucking my brain through my ears !!! Aaaaaaaaaaaaargh !!!!!!!! FastT ----------------------- I remember now where i had this feeling about a "self-referent referential" : about applying the flabby Gaussian grid to physical spacetime in theory of relativity. Lines aren't straight, but that's ok, because lines (as trajectories) dont matter, only crosses (as events) matters. So, neurological reality in made of events. If the events are shared, the reality is shared. If u dont have any event, u dont have "reality". The question may become : is "being" a (continuum of) event(s) or a continuous static state ? --------------------- But ... what is that noise in the dark ?... no nooo not him again ... hey meancookie- I got thirty bucks now and can get you the rest on Friday OK? But yeah, look at all the pretty colors! they're so "significant!" “Without trust there is nothing.” – trust is the event that allows us to describe anything in and around us as reality. Life must be believed and trust is the tool with which we operate that belief. and Teo, that noise in the dark? it is me the only reality is conciousness the grass im smokin is sooooo kicking in and right now im highhhhhhhhh in the sky ooooooso high and hell no im not sending this junk thru mail! Your search - meancookie89 skypilot (whispering grass) - did not match any documents. Suggestions: * Make sure all words are spelled correctly. * Try different keywords. * Try more general keywords. * Try fewer keywords. |
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