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12-30-2006 1:49 PM
Godfrey Daniel
So perverse.
12-30-2006 1:50 PM
enbar
No kidding.
12-30-2006 2:16 PM
Socratoad
And Bush is defending us from .... What?
12-30-2006 6:38 PM
themuffinman
12-30-2006 6:42 PM
themuffinman
12-30-2006 7:13 PM
debbyski
We're living in sad times, indeed, times when you can trust what Saddam Hussein says more than your own government.
That's the point, muffin.
12-30-2006 8:14 PM
Godfrey Daniel
Look at it this way, Muffinman, Clipmarks enables us to peer into this surreal parallel universe without having to leave the sanity of ours where logic applies. If you look at it that way--as entertainment--it's more amusing than annoying.
12-30-2006 8:15 PM
enbar
Wow, themuffinman, did you actually read the second link? The U.S. doesn't come across looking too good in that article either with regard to the use of sometimes-fatal torture against innocent people.

Anyhow, pointing out that Bush lied while Saddam told the truth is not the same as saying "Saddam is my hero." You'd have to be pretty much a simpleton to think that.
12-30-2006 9:25 PM
nikrocks
so he didn't lie about one thing...
12-30-2006 10:43 PM
ratilfar
Yeah, the one thing that counted! Besides, Saddam sin wasn't (at least in the eyes of the U.S. goverment) that he gassed Kurds, Shiites or Iranians, started wars of aggresion or was a brutal sadistic monster. Oh, no my friends his sin was that he bit the hand that fed him.

Put an Exocet on the side of an American frigate, no problem. Use poison gas against your enemies, well do you want German, or American expertise for that? Built a nuclear reactor, gee goly, I hope the IAF is smart enough to take that one out.

had Saddam not been stupid enough to invade Kuwait (even if he did give the Americans the heads up) he would still be the U.S. bestest pall in the whole wide world. He should hav...
12-30-2006 10:49 PM
Eaglewings
The biggest weapon of Mass Destruction in Irag was Sadaam and his family just ask an Iraqi. That WMD was removed from the planet this week and that threat is no more.
12-30-2006 11:34 PM
arifsali
Does anyone know how much this monster cost start to finish?
12-31-2006 12:04 AM
enbar
@ Eaglewings:

Here's an Iraqi's comment on this very point:
Why make things worse by insisting on Saddam's execution now? Who gains if they hang Saddam? Iran, naturally, but who else? There is a real fear that this execution will be the final blow that will shatter Iraq. Some Sunni and Shia tribes have threatened to arm their members against the Americans if Saddam is executed. Iraqis in general are watching closely to see what happens next, and quietly preparing for the worst.

This is because now, Saddam no longer represents himself or his regime. Through the constant insistence of American war propaganda, Saddam is now representative of all Sunni Arabs (never mind most of his gove...
12-31-2006 2:35 AM
thisnamecantbetaken
And make no mistake about it, this trial and verdict and execution are 100% American.
She's a smart girl that Riverbend.
12-31-2006 9:09 AM
Eaglewings
And make no mistake about it, this trial and verdict and execution are 100% American.
Nonsense
12-31-2006 9:16 AM
enbar
Nonsense
Your source for this verdict?
12-31-2006 10:10 AM
Socratoad
muffinman, you really should do yourself a favour ..... take a course on reading comprehension.
12-31-2006 10:10 AM
DecayingAngel
At last, someone has the courage to post the truth. And if anyone believes that Dubya didn't have anything to do with it--I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

The biggest liar in this whole mess is GWB and his cohort, Tony Blair. How can the exposed Bush-Blair memo be just brushed aside? The fact that these men were looking to fabricate ANY reason to attack Saddam should be a crime in itself.

The people of Iraq did not execute him. The branch of Islam that was on the opposing side of his regime did. Now Iraq will see even greater turmoil and killing, as many will seek to avenge his death. Nothing has changed there, and it never will. These conflicts go back to ancient Persia, ...
12-31-2006 1:07 PM
pwright8
I think Saddam's sin was stupidity as said by ratifar...
But I love the idea of Godfrey scouring clipmarks for entertainment in provocative posts like this. See, Godfrey, obviously this post isn't literally true, but do you really think GW would give a fuck about a gangster like Saddam if he hadn't quer'ed the American patch?
12-31-2006 1:21 PM
Godfrey Daniel
....if he hadn't quer'ed the American patch?

Not familiar with this expression, and I love learning new ones. Could you explain, please.
12-31-2006 2:05 PM
Eaglewings
An old wise man once said the blind lead the blind and then they both fall into a ditch. Once one inbraces a lie and exchanges the truth for falsehood then their thinking becomes clouded and their logic is devoid of sense and they end up wandering around in darkness not able to see the light of truth even when it hits them in the head.

Reality check. Had the UNITED STATES had any say in the capital punishment of SADAAM Hussein he would still be alive today. WE DO NOT PUT TO DEATH our own death row inmates let alone those from another state. The fact that Sadaam swung from a rope is the result of his actions and being tried in an Iraqi court not an American one. Heck we would have appointed ...
12-31-2006 2:26 PM
Socratoad
FFS Eaglewings, try not to be so naive.
12-31-2006 2:49 PM
Godfrey Daniel
You haven't evidenced that you've had success in following your own advice.
12-31-2006 3:04 PM
debbyski
I think George W. Bush and Saddam Hussein share common traits; they both are unconcerned about the suffering of others--a well-defined definition of sociopath. It appears to be a genetic defect in their moral compositions rather than conscious desires to be miserable human beings. It explains why George W. Bush would start an unnecessary war dreaming of being a modern Alexander the Great only to become a neo-Caligula who would cause hundreds of thousands to die just so he wouldn't have to admit failure.
12-31-2006 5:00 PM
Eaglewings
My pervious comment stands on its own merits. Those who seem to be wise become foolish so that the foolish would appear wise go figure. Woe be unto us when we call that which is good evil and that which is evil good. There is no redeeming grace in the now deceased Sadaam Hussein. The only thing I wish would have been done differently was for him to have been removed long ago along with all the other evil dictators around the world who abuse children, kill anyone who opposes them, commits mass murder on civilian populations just to keep themselves in power. Oh you were talking about George W Bush. WHY DIDN't YOU VOTE HIM OUT OF OFFICE? Perhaps it was because your side lost the debate? But what do I know I am just a fool.
12-31-2006 5:10 PM
arifsali
to have been removed long ago along with all the other evil dictators
around the world who abuse children, kill anyone who opposes them,
commits mass murder on civilian populations
I thought only liberals were idealists, hmm..... Are you going to find anyone who would argue with you on above?
1-2-2007 12:26 AM
seano77
Does everyone forget that Sadaam killed hundreds of thousands of his people or not?
1-2-2007 4:29 AM
RecordSage
Not everyone, seano77... just the crowd that can't recall 9/11, all of the terrorist attacks prior to that... including the people who defended the Holocaust deniers conference as a legitimate event, etc.... the rest of us however, most certainly remember what he did and even though we may not be jumping up and down with glee that the butcher of Baghdad is no longer breathing... we certainly welcome the news of his demise as a positive development... since it's one more person who want be killing thousands more ever again.
1-2-2007 4:36 AM
Godfrey Daniel
What's the matter, Mr Sage, you have a twisted ankle?
1-2-2007 8:04 AM
pwright8
GD,
You asked about the expression,:

....if he hadn't quer'ed the American patch?

My spelling may be wrong, and i can't find may examples on the internet, but here's one from T. Blair's site:

http://www.number-10.gov.uk/output/Page5752.asp

search for 'patch'

The expression is used by street traders/buskers who find their business disrupted by another trader nearby.. It doesn't require that the disrupting trader actually to 'invade' the space of the trader to queer their patch. For example, a trader selling perfume can be disrupted by a trader selling fish nearby, without any law/rule having been broken.


1-2-2007 1:50 PM
RD_Tarkus
I often wonder at how so many "clowns" come up with so much crap.

Maybe some of you should stop watching the Network news and surfing the far left web sites, and actually search for the "truth".

I am not in full agreement with Bush, but I am tired of the Bush-haters who have no brains and can only attack.

To say Bush does not care is a lie.

To say Bush lied about WMD's is also a LIE. The entire world believed it. Saddam's own generals believed it because Saddam never told THEM they were gone.

So many idiots, so little time. Oh well, you fools still have plenty of time to continue to destroy the world. Go for it.
1-2-2007 2:56 PM
debbyski
1-2-2007 3:10 PM
Godfrey Daniel
I am not in full agreement with Bush, but I am tired of the Bush-haters who have no brains and can only attack.

They've got brains, RD, their brains have just been seriously compromised by Bush Obsessive Disorder.

I know some very intelligent and otherwise balanced and perceptive people with it. I call them the BODies. One mention of the name Bush, or a simple glimpse of his image, and these BODies become irrational and transformed. it's a tragic condition.
1-2-2007 4:23 PM
debbyski
Bush Obsessive Disorder
Couldn't find any data on it. Found this though.

NIMH-NSF scholars from the Universities of Maryland, California
at Berkeley, and Stanford attribute notions about morality and
individualism to "dogmatism" and "uncertainty avoidance." Social
conservatives, in particular, were said to suffer from "mental
rigidity," a condition that, researchers assert, is probably
hard-wired, condemning traditionalists to a lifelong, cognitive
hell, with all the associated indicators for mental illness:
"decreased cognitive function, lowered self-esteem, fear, anger,
pessimism, disgust, and contempt."
1-2-2007 4:29 PM
Godfrey Daniel
I've read that. Very humorous. Great reading for a summer day at the beach.
1-2-2007 4:39 PM
debbyski
LOL GD.
Did you ever answer my question about my windows media player issue with firefox?
1-2-2007 4:41 PM
Godfrey Daniel
I must have missed it. What about it?
1-2-2007 4:52 PM
debbyski
My system is windows 98SE. I'm running firefox 2.0.0.1. I have tried to install the windows media player 9.0. The files are missing on about plugin on firefox. No luck on trying to install the files manually.
1-2-2007 5:27 PM
Godfrey Daniel
I would try the simplest first. Update your WMP to the latest version. That might be all it takes. Or, if you don't want to do that for some reason, reinstall your current version.
1-2-2007 5:34 PM
debbyski
I'll give it another whirl.
1-2-2007 5:37 PM
Godfrey Daniel
What, exactly, have you whirled?
1-2-2007 5:38 PM
Godfrey Daniel
...other than peas, of course
1-2-2007 6:04 PM
debbyski
My mouse and peas, but not at the same time; that can be messy.
1-2-2007 6:10 PM
Godfrey Daniel
No, seriously, what do you mean by another whirl? What have you tried?
1-2-2007 6:18 PM
debbyski
Crap,
I've tried installing it again for the 4th time and of course the files are missing. It's not going to be that easy. I may have to post on:
www.geekstogo.com
One of my favorite free tech support sites. You will see my username on there frequently.
1-2-2007 6:24 PM
Godfrey Daniel
Are you trying to reinstall the plug-in or WMP? You really need to reinstall WMP, and I really recommend getting the latest version, 11.
1-2-2007 6:27 PM
debbyski
WMP, but 11 isn't compatible with windows 98SE. I'm stuck with 9.0 on system requirements or so they say.
1-3-2007 2:49 AM
RecordSage
Win98SE? You know there's another way to spell it, debbyski - "self-abuse"
1-3-2007 10:20 AM
debbyski
1-9-2007 9:48 AM
UpStateMike
Way to stand up for a mass murderer who'd rather build another palace instead of helping out his frightened subjects.

I find it interesting that people who believe that the evil US Government is out to control their minds and lives are supporting an actual dictator who did just that!
1-9-2007 10:01 AM
enbar
Sorry UpStateMike, I missed it. Who said anything in support of Saddam?
1-9-2007 7:41 PM
Eaglewings
Debbyski's Search for the truth yielded the following:
http://www.think-aboutit.com/underground/SearchingfortheTruthUndergroundBases.htm

Being the curious type I decided to check out this site searching for truth to see what pearls of wisdom I could uncover.

What did I find?

Well I understand why these people think GWB is so bad because this search for truth site is still looking for UFO's and underground secret hiding places. Area 51 and the BIG GOVERNMENT Cover-up no wonder they think the way they think.

Beam me up Scotty there is definately no intelligent life down here.
1-9-2007 7:45 PM
Eaglewings
Enbar wrote the following:

Sorry UpStateMike, I missed it. Who said anything in support of Saddam?
Just thought I would inform those of you who have not bothered to READ THE TITLE TO THIS POST IT READS:

Saddam was right and Bush was Wrong

Therefore; if you are on the side of Bush being wrong then by default you are saying Saddam was right. Those are the one's who have showed support for Saddam but what do I know I am just a feather brain.
1-9-2007 7:48 PM
funana
Eaglewings: So you don't think that you are intelligent? Maybe very wise...

Neither Saddam nor Bush were doing right. But in the case of telling the truth about wmd ... oh my god. Saddam was telling the truth... much to my regret.
1-9-2007 8:01 PM
Ali_Muslim
Debbyski, well done, i think you hit the nail on the head here.

For me, america 'created' saddam. He became their dog (among many). Using him to attack countries the US didnt like eg iran or had interests in sucking money from eg kuwait.

When the master-dog relationship broke down and 'they fell out of love' as it were, the master turned on its dog and went to destroy it. But in doing so the evil master decided also to slaughter about 650,0000 innocent civilians as well.

ali
1-9-2007 8:46 PM
enbar
Eaglewings ... you're confused. Saying that Saddam's statements about WMD turned out to be true -- which they did -- is not the same as saying I support Saddam.
1-10-2007 2:44 AM
Eaglewings
Saying Saddam was right in any sense exalts him as well RIGHT. He wasn't right. He lied about WMD but he is not called a LIAR. HE used WMDS on his own people so he had them in fact some where found. Not what I was hoping would be found but Iran is a BIG SAND PILE And they could still be buried somewhere, or in SYRIA.

Anyway just because the whole world was misled by Hussein does not elevate him to being right. In fact He was given the opportunity to PROVE he had destroyed all his weapons that is what all the UN Resolutions were all about. He just thought that NO ONE really give a rip and he could do whatever he felt like because all the bobble head boobs in America would certainly not do an...
1-10-2007 5:01 AM
funana
Eaglewings: Who proved that the 9/11 attacks have been done by islamic terrorists? I read a lot about that issue but until today there have been no evidences for that theory.

Btw: Your use of the word Jihad is incorrect.
"Jihad, it must be emphasized, means struggle, and specifically struggle in the way of God. This struggle may take many forms, including the use of force."
Please read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad or any other encyclopedia.

And no Terrorist will fear you as long as you act as a wild stupid cowboy. Excuse me, Sir.

How about getting respect for doing good? Wouldnt that be an option too?
1-10-2007 10:43 AM
Eaglewings
Funana wrote:

How about getting respect for doing good? Wouldnt that be an option too?
Sounds like a good idea. How about those Islamic sand fleas who hide out amoungst civilians take off the black hoods and suicide vests and stop blowing up buildings, planes, trains, cars, subways, embassies and say they are sorry and will not ever do it again. I just might come to respect them.

As far as asking the United States to do good around the world. Excuse me but the United States has done more good around the world than any other nation ever in the history of mankind yet they still hate us. GO FIGURE!
1-10-2007 10:45 AM
Eaglewings
Funana wrote:
And no Terrorist will fear you as long as you act as a wild stupid cowboy. Excuse me, Sir.
And no American will love you if you go around like wild cowardly terrorists blowing up innocent people. EXUSE ME SIR!
1-10-2007 10:47 AM
Eaglewings
Who proved that the 9/11 attacks have been done by islamic terrorists?
I read a lot about that issue but until today there have been no
evidences for that theory.
Well they were not catholic, baptists, hindu, buddists, jews, or any other religion but lets see Mohammah ATA HMM ISLAM?? Perhaps that is where I got the idea they were Islamic? In fact all the 9-11 hijackers held to the Islamic faith. They certainly were not choir boys from Hobokin.
1-10-2007 11:06 AM
debbyski
Eaglewings,
I put that particular link on there because I was being sarcastic and wanted to put the most out-there link I could find.
1-10-2007 12:49 PM
Ali_Muslim
The US government is the one that did or at least facilitated 911. If you dont believe me see this video documentary produced by americans. This convinced me.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501&q=loose+change+recut
1-10-2007 1:15 PM
hipster
I have talked with many of the first soldiers in Iraq. The truth is many weapons of mass destruction were found...just not ever publicized. Why? Because they were the same weapons that the good old US of A supplied Saddam with when they hoped he would become an allie and start a bloodfest with Iran..the real target! Once Saddam chickened out, America (Bush) had to go get those weapons back and the easiest way was to start a trumped up war. His lies and claims of a nuclear threat and such were just that...Lies. But they were made up to recover weapons he had given to Saddam.

Bush should be impeached for his lies. He has disillusioned Americans and let us all down. Read my recently posted art...
1-10-2007 1:20 PM
funana
Eaglewings:
- A terrorist can't be a real muslim
- People with suicide vests must be desperate to do something like that. Life is not just black and white. There are shades of grey.
- I dont go around and kill innocent people.
- Pls. give me some examples of the USA doing good which means to me humanitarian help, not war.
- You didnt get my comment on 9/11: There is no evidence of terrorists and even the "hijackers" on the hijacker list have not been on board on any of the planes. Ata of cause could have been on the plane that crashed first into WTC - but this the version of the FBI and I just have my doubts.
1-10-2007 11:52 PM
Eaglewings
Hipster wrote:
I have talked with many of the first soldiers in Iraq. The truth is
many weapons of mass destruction were found...just not ever publicized
This can not be because there were no weapons of mass destruction you all said there were none you can not have it both ways. Either there was or there was not. Which is it?

Fun wrote:

A terrorist can't be a real muslim
WHY NOT? They all seem to call themselves Muslems. And if they are not real muslims then why don/t you real muslims deal with them? Arrest them, try them. imprison them do something with them if they are not real muslims. I know they aint real Americans. Expose them for what they really are....
1-11-2007 12:00 AM
Eaglewings
my lasy\t comment was too wordy so it had to be continued here.

And finally Fun shows why he lives in the land of DE NILE

Ata of cause could have been on the plane that crashed first into WTC -
but this the version of the FBI and I just have my doubts.
Let me guess I bet you believe there are UFOS hidden in a dessert in Nevada along with all the nonexistant WMD that Bush took out of IRAQ?

I will be praying for you Fun but you can't be for real. No one can be that stupid and survive. You must be a propagandist for some foreign government trying to take over the USA. I bet Bin Laden put you up to this. NO NO you work for the FBI And GWB is paying you to stir up trouble so we...
1-11-2007 12:00 AM
enbar
Eaglewings, don't forget, Saddam was not an Islamic terrorist. He hated al-Qaeda and al-Qaeda hated him.

Yes, Islamist terror is a threat. But the problem is, throwing the middle east into violent, anarchic chaos is making the problem worse. Sending in more soldiers and bombs is not going to make the terrorist threat go away.

9-11 was a serious black eye for al-Qaeda. It made them look bad all around the world. But as soon as the US invaded Iraq, which had nothing to do with 9-11, al-Qaeda started spreading its propaganda around the Arab and Muslim world about how the US was out to destroy Islam. And guess what? Every time we drop a bomb in Iraq, and al-Jazeera broadcasts another photo o...
1-11-2007 12:08 AM
Eaglewings
Well thank you Enbar at least your comments showed some intelligent thought.

As far as the photos with the legs blown off I got lots of pictures of DEAD BODIES from 9-11 I can show you.

Cry me a river.

I think the next bomb should be dropped on al-Jazeera's broadcast studios. I bet the pictures they got of kids with legs blown off where from their own land minds and car bombs. Not that al-Jazeera would lie or anything they are an honest to goodness news agency.

1-11-2007 12:13 AM
Eaglewings
Someone's got to stop this.
I agree with this statement. Someone needs to stop this. HEY BIN LADEN how about stopping this? Hey Muslim Clerics HOW About stopping this? Hey al Qaeda lets stop this? Hey Iran what say you stop this? Okay Eqypt you wanna step in and make peace? Syria how bout lending a hand? Pakistan you wanna tell these terrorists to give it up? Your hero Saddam could have stopped it after all it got worse since he be dead right? But he didn't! Can we say previous bombings of the WTC, the US COLE, the American Embassy in Africa and all this was prior to GWB and Iraq. WHY DIDN"T SOMEONE STOP IT?

NEWSFLASH we are stopping it!!!
1-11-2007 12:13 AM
hipster
Eaglewings...I said I talked to many of the first soldiers in Iraq. The reason they beat a hasty path to the capital was because that's where Saddam was and he knew where all the biological weapons were that the US gave him to fight Iran. Saddam chickened out and Bush had to get the stuff back...and they did! It wasn't published in our newspapers because, just like Vietnam, the only news published about a war is what out country allows out. Besides, how do you tell the American people that the WMD's are one's we supplied Saddam with? Much easier to make up all kinds of hype about what he did or didn't have and then deny, deny, deny later.

As I said, I have talked with soldiers who saw the ...
1-11-2007 12:17 AM
Eaglewings
Yes, Islamist terror is a threat. But the problem is, throwing the middle east into violent, anarchic chaos
Establishing a stable peaceful government is IRAQ is good for the middle east BAD FOR TERRORIST but good for the Middle East.

Terrorist love CHAOIC situacions look where they choose to operate. AFGHANISTAN now that was really a thriving peaceful society with al gaeda in charge. Can we say Mogadishu? How about Sudan? All these CHAOIC places are loaded with terrorists. I think you all should get your own houses in order so we do not have to come over there and clean up after you all the time.

How about taking care of your own in Palistine? Help them out. But no they are ...
1-11-2007 12:18 AM
Eaglewings
Vietnam was my nemesis...but this fiasco has very little difference. All the same bullshit...different leaders.
Actually the bullshit is coming from the same leaders they are called democrats.
1-11-2007 12:24 AM
hipster
Oh come on...Bush is no Democrat...neither am I. I voted against Bush because he's an idiot...always has been. The man can't even talk. But that has little to do with anything.

The war is matter of convenience. It is a means to an end. Do you really think there will ever be Middle East Peace? No way! Those people have been warring forever...and will go on warring forever. The end to Iraq will come when Bush withdraws his troops into Iran...the real target. He will leave Iraq in the dust just like he left Afghanistan.

Do some research...read the Bush/Cheney papers on taking down the MIddle East for its oil reserves. Get real!
1-11-2007 12:53 AM
Eaglewings
Oh come on...Bush is no Democrat...neither am I. I voted against Bush
because he's an idiot...always has been. The man can't even talk. But
that has little to do with anything.
Yep I stated correctly and repeat. The bullshit is coming from the same group of people they are called democrats. The proof is in the pudding. And just to make it clear I am neither a republican nor a democrat.
1-11-2007 12:58 AM
Eaglewings
Do you really think there will ever be Middle East Peace? No way! Those
people have been warring forever...and will go on warring forever.
Yes there will be peace in the middle east when the antichrist is set up to rule over the Jews. There will be a period of peace only to be followed with a great war to end all wars when Jesus comes back to kick some real booty. Then the end will come and then real peace will be established. SO DO I believe there will be peace in the mid east yes only if all people embrace Jesus as LORD. Until then there shall be wars and rumors of wars nation will rise up against nation and the love of many will wax cold.

Nevertheless Lord Jesus COME QUIC...
1-11-2007 12:58 AM
enbar
Eaglewings said:

Establishing a stable peaceful government is IRAQ is good for the middle east BAD FOR TERRORIST but good for the Middle East
The problem is, it's not working, is it? Things are getting less stable every day over there.

Eaglewings said:

As far as the photos with the legs blown off I got lots of pictures of DEAD BODIES from 9-11 I can show you.

Cry me a river.
You're missing the point. Sure, factually, you may be right. But we are handing the terrorists ammunition for their propaganda every day that we stay in the mideast. No one seems to want to acknowledge what the CIA has already reported: the terrorism problem is getting worse, not better, because of our war.
1-11-2007 1:02 AM
Eaglewings
No one seems to want to acknowledge what the CIA has already reported: the terrorism problem is getting worse, not better, because of our war.
Okay I admit it. The terrorists are trying their damndest to escalate the violence in IRAQ so we Americans get the hell out so they can get back to what they were doing before we got there.

But I also will admit that the violence is OVER THERE and isolated to BAHGDAD And not over here. It is working. It is always darkest before dawn.

What is feeding the fire for escalated violence is all this talk about getting out. If we all start to say HELL NO WE AINT GOING TO GO Till all you terrorists are dead or dying. Watch what happens...
1-11-2007 4:12 AM
Ali_Muslim
Eaglewings ,

The Biggest Terrorist today is the US
Islamicist are simply retaliating for the terrorism inflicted upon them.

Who intervened in whose land first???
The US intervended in the Muslim land first by creating puppets regimes that served its interests and not the interests of the people. This is all becuase it is an oil rich region and so is of strategic importance.

The people there are muslims. They resisted and continue to resist US terrorism on humanity. The US then decided to label the resistors as Islamic terrorists (because that helps to deceive the american people and makes them think its not their government that is the Terrorist). Now america uses the label of global war...
1-11-2007 8:18 AM
debbyski
If you want to blindly remain attached to the notion that the US is a bringer of peace and goodness to humanity then you can do so. But dont expect humanity to believe you. And don't expect your own government to believe you either. Even though they may applaud you.
Very well said, Ali!
1-11-2007 9:13 AM
Eaglewings
Islamicist are simply retaliating for the terrorism inflicted upon them.
BS..

Sunni Muslems are blowing up Shia Muslems that has nothing to do with us. The Sunnis and Shias have been a hatin for a long time which again has nothing to do with us. But you can not stand the truth it is far easier to bash the big bad US.


AGAIN. If the MUslims have a legitimate beef to make concerning our actions then I urge them to state their case to the UN or mount a legitimate armed conflict and not engage hooded suicide bombers to carry out their dirty work. If Asama Bin Laden has a beef against us WHERE THE HELL IS HE? Show your face, fight like a man and stop exciting your minions to ac...
1-11-2007 9:22 AM
Eaglewings
If you want to blindly remain attached to the notion that the US is a
bringer of peace and goodness to humanity then you can do so. But dont
expect humanity to believe you.
BAR none the US is the biggest humanitarian aid anywhere ever in history and many believe that, a few don't. But those same few believe that there are 21 virgins waiting in heaven for them if they blow themselves up.

Murderers go to HELL again that is God speaking therefore it is truth, no virgins await only weeping and wailing and nashing of teeth.

Truth, truth you can't handle the truth. If you want to get into a debate about truth then start to quote the word of Truth and not some wacko humanist writ...
1-11-2007 11:30 AM
funana
Fun wrote:

A terrorist can't be a real muslim
WHY NOT? They all seem to call themselves Muslems. And if they are not real muslims then why don/t you real muslims deal with them? Arrest them, try them. imprison them do something with them if they are not real muslims. I know they aint real Americans. Expose them for what they really are.
Here we go again. Bush calls himself a christian, islamic fascists call themselves muslims.
It's AGAINST BOTH RELIGIONS, got that, stupid?

And then he wrote:

People with suicide vests must be desperate to do something like that.
Life is not just black and white. There are shades of grey.
Bri...
1-11-2007 11:31 AM
funana
Let me guess I bet you believe there are UFOS hidden in a dessert in Nevada along with all the nonexistant WMD that Bush took out of IRAQ?

I will be praying for you Fun but you can't be for real. No one can be that stupid and survive. You must be a propagandist for some foreign government trying to take over the USA. I bet Bin Laden put you up to this. NO NO you work for the FBI And GWB is paying you to stir up trouble so we have more reason to fight in IRAQ yeah that got to be it. You will be in his next speech telling America why we are still in Iraq. COME ON FESS UP you work for GEORGE.
Dude, calm down. Just because you dont have any arguments that count doesnt mean that ...
1-11-2007 1:15 PM
Eaglewings
Have ever been outside of your wonderful country?
Yes! Not too many people are clamoring for other parts of the world like they are clamoring to get in here. Just an observation not that it is a fact or anything.

And dont start with that UFO Area51 nonsense, okay?
That comment was tongue in cheek stating that some people no matter what the evidence chose to believe that the truth is not the truth and would rather invent some far reaching conspiracy theory which is far harder to believe OR PROVE for that matter then the plain simple truth.

Not me doubting the offical 9/11 theory.
I am not really sure what there is to doubt about 9-11 there are ...
1-11-2007 1:51 PM
funana
I doubt that it was planned and executed (alone) by muslim terrorists.

I do not say that there have been no attacks, for sure there have. I just ask questions since day one that never have been answered. Just one: How and why collapsed WTC7?

And as you talk about the muslims on the planes: Do you know that most of them are still alive and have never been on any of the flights?
1-11-2007 1:51 PM
Ali_Muslim
Eaglewings, out of 10 how much is your hate of muslims?

Honest answer only please.

thanks

ali
1-11-2007 6:55 PM
RecordSage
funana, what muslims on the planes that are still alive are you talking about?

Ali, you're the only one that hates here... you beat this non-sense into your head about the US terrorism etc. Look in the mirror and you'll see someone who hates, based on your f*ed up point of view, combined with idiotic fringe wackos that support you only because of their hate for what this country and its people stand for. I have no intention of killing you and your family for ANY cause, even though I'm sure you'd do the opposite for yours. THAT'S the difference between us!

EagleWings - welcome to Clipmarks!
1-11-2007 7:12 PM
Ali_Muslim
Excellent intro RS. Marvellous !
1-11-2007 10:29 PM
Eaglewings
Eaglewings, out of 10 how much is your hate of muslims?
Ali...

God hates sin I hate sin. God hates godliness, I hate godliness, God hates liars and those who weigh with uneven measures and so do I. God hates those who exchange the glory of God for things made by man and so do I.

I do not hate Muslims but I do dispise terrorists. I do not hate any people groups but I do hate evildoers and those who lie in wait to shed innocent blood and guess what so does God. Perhaps I hate or have a strong dislike for the very same things God does. Care to see whose side God is on in this one?

Now then Ali I have one question for you. And the same applys to you only honest answers. Do M...
1-11-2007 10:30 PM
Eaglewings
Thanks RecordSage Greetings to you as well.
1-11-2007 10:32 PM
Eaglewings
How and why collapsed WTC7?
Fun I do not understand what you are asking? Please elaborate.
1-11-2007 10:35 PM
enbar
"You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image, when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do." (Annie Lamott)
1-11-2007 10:37 PM
Eaglewings
I doubt that it was planned and executed (alone) by muslim terrorists.
They planned and executed other attacks on the same buildings twice before. They planned and executed attacks on the US COLE and the American Embassy in Africa. Bin Laden admitted to the deed. They done it. Its a fact. Now what are you doing to help stop this madness? Oh that assumes you believe that there really is evil in the world.
1-12-2007 6:39 AM
Ali_Muslim
eaglewings, your answer is good. And it the same as mine.

Now let us look at whether the US government has been lieing or not. And so deduce whether God Almighty hates it or not.

US governments consistently lie and do evil and hypocritical acts.
They lied about iraq.
They are hypocritical about democracy. Eg in palestine when the people chose hamas, instead of the US supporting this democractically elected governement it decided to work to topple it from power.
In lebanon, the US gave a green light for israel to cointinue bombing civilian areas and destroy civilian infrastructue and slaughter children in the name of what?? The war against terrorism !

For war on terrorism read 'War for ...