Horse feces. If 500 vets a month were offing themselves it couldn't be hidden by the Pentagon. In 4 years of war we haven't had 4000 KIA. 120 a week means 6000 in just one year. We lost 58,000 plus in Vietnam but over 160,000 Vietnam Vets committed suicide three of them friends of mine.. So for me it's easy to believe I lived it already.. Go read the article follow the link to it...! I expected more really It's interesting that n2sooners debunking source turns out to be the military. They criticize CBS for acquiring data from sources with a vested interest yet they somehow believe the military wouldn't have a vested interest in giving inaccurate data. I guess we all believed those Patriot missile statistics that the military gave us after the first Gulf War right? More study needs to be done obviously, but far from being debunked. If there was no problem why did Bush sign into law the Joshua Omvig Veterans Suicide Prevention Act? Interesting side note and always oh so typical of the hypocrite AWOL Bush - While the bill requires the VA to provide certain additional services, it provides no new funding. They also still deny the 160,000 plus who killed themselves after service in Vietnam..due to it occurring years afterward but many Vets of an Insurgent war never recover or integrate back into civilian life in this case of post Iraq war II Bush 43's war.. They come home to overwhelming debt and losing their homes and a huge number of divorces due to their repeated service and over deployment..and mistreatment by the Veterans Administration as was recently so well documented and also the military denial of serious brain injuries which number in the many thousands as well as being charged for being maimed and not finishing their terms of service due to combat injuries.. There will al... Funny how deep BDS runs. The study on suicide rates for Vietnam vets was done in the 90s, yet somehow that is Bush's fault? If there was any administration tampering into the study, it would have been the Clinton administration. It was also funny how under Clinton there was no whining about veteran benefits, but the left whines about them constantly under Bush even though they are going up more than twice as fast as they did under Clinton. Get over your BDS and ask yourself why the CBS study doesn't jive with numerous previous studies, and why you should believe it over them? Is it because they are so trust worthy, or is it just because they are telling you what you want to believe is the truth? Man you really have a serious case of Bush Dementia Syndrome don't you.. The Pentagon has lied and fucked over our Troops for decades..I told you three of my own friends who served in Vietnam hung themselves and never got over the experiences so take you Fox News bullshit and shove it..! I care about our troops, my cousin is a Major he's done 4 tours of duty since 9/11, and served in the first gulf war among other things and he's pissed off a Major..! You only care about your little Unitary Fascist swine ..Bush..! An his Nazi Collaborator Fascist Family..! Our Troops are killing themselves I don't care if it's 120 per week or 12 you get that, do you, do you get that now..? TJ, they'll never get it. Knee-jerks to the man. Another thing that n2sooners always overlooks is the fact that veterans spending is going up under the Bush administration as a result of the baby boomer retirement effect. There would have been a need to increase spending regardless who the current president is. The more important matter is whether Bush provides enough spending and according the Head of the VA Bush underfunded the VA by some 1 to 2 Billion dollars. But I guess when you got to pay off millionaires for their campaign donations with tax cuts, what the hell. Even Bush's own Secretary of Veterans Affairs Anthony Principi -- in a rare break with administration protocol -- told a House committee Feb. 4 that had asked for ... Our Troops are killing themselves I don't care if it's 120 per week or 12 you get that, do you, do you get that now..?Yes they are, but so are our civilians, and the rates are about the same for civilians and veterans. So trying to blame it on military service is just so much BS. And as a disabled veteran, I am getting sick and tired of liberal Bush haters trying to claim how bad this administration has screwed me over and trying to use me to bash Bush when just a few short years ago they didn't give a rats ass about me even though my benefits were going up at a fraction of the rate they are now because their boy was in office. And if you really want to go off on someone c... It's hopeless there are just so many of these Fox News Clones out there our nation is doomed, doomed history down the drain.. He cares more about Bush than he does even himself let alone his fellow Troops..that's the Bush Dementia Syndrome.. Why wouldn't benefits go up that's cost of living increases and when we're t war one would expect spending to go up for veterans benefits because we are creating a lot more wounded and disabled Veterans and also 20 thousand with serious brain injuries and then even more with PTSD..! Why are these guys killing themselves how are we failing them what benefits and services are they in need of that they are not getting... I'll bash Bush all I ... Actually, BDS describes someone so blinded by hatred for Bush that they can't think straight, and it seems to describe you to a T. You totally ignore democrats cutting real benefits to disabled veterans because it doesn't fit into your Bush bashing agenda. You are a sick person and need to seek help. As for me, I am just fine. My benefits are much greater now than they were in the 90s. I just hope they stay that way with democrats who care more about non-American WWII vets than disabled American veterans. You don't know what I think you some programed abomination... You think I'm some Clinton supporter..? If I was a federal Attorney I'd throw Bush and Clinton in jail where they both belong..! Why are you defending some little shit liar like Bush who has turned everything he touches to shit he's ruined this country and our army and Marine devastated them and weakened our nation world wide both Militarily and Economically.. Bush's whole family are criminals and Nazi Collaborators who betrayed our country and he's doing it now with the SPP and other policies.. Man you are hopeless.. I think I see your tinfoil slipping. How about this, instead of all the name calling and such, why don't you just prove your point. Go find that CBS study and show us the break down of all the veterans who committed suicide, age, branch, sex, time served and such and post it here. Then we can compare it to the suicide rate of civilians who match those demographics. Otherwise this is nothing but a pissing contest. Look these guys are killing themselves young men too many of them, you don't care fine that's on you but I have posted other articles on this already and they are only a small fraction of all of the supporting ones I found.. There's now a half a dozen more of these here at Clipmarks now by me..your just some Bushie sycophant who still doesn't care that these poor guys are committing suicide just like Bush doesn't care either.. You Bush sickies are all alike..! The very fact that you are attacking this post so insanely only gives it more validity 120 per week of our troops on average are committing suicide go read the other posts on this..here.. I must have hit a nerve..Good..! It would also be nice if n2 could provide a link to the claim Democrats are cutting benefits to veterans (no doubt it comes from a conservative blogger instead of a reasonable source). N2 is always great about making claims but never backing them up. What a joke that he would think the military would be a reliable source on this matter. No stats yet? Still can't show us the exact numbers proving vets are killing themselves at a rate any higher than the general public? Still trying to use us vets for your pointless Bush bashing tirades? Still ignoring HR 760 where democrats want to give benefits to Filipino WWII vets by taking away benefits from American disabled vets? Nothing new to see here, yawn. I don't know how they do math in Oklahoma but here's what numbers mean to me. The Democrats added $3.7 billion dollars of funding above Bush's version of the Veterans Funding Bill. Not sure how you get that Democrats are cutting funding. H.R. 760 is cosponsored by 12 Republicans and according to a Congressional Budget Office report would costs less than $1 dollar per American over the period 2008-2012 to honor World War II Filipino soldiers who fought and died side by side with Americans to preserve Liberty and Freedom in a real war. Meanwhile n2sooners doesn't give a rat's ass that American taxpayers will for generations be paying off the $2 trillion we wasted on a pack of lies on Bush's... Bobby, dontcha' know? Tis far better to line the pockets of the private army of contractors in Iraq than to honor those silly enough to have believed that we gave a rats ass about them dying in that other war that nobody remembers. You know why? 'Cause we'll get our money back through trickle-down now. Ya' gotta' remember, man, war is business and business is what's good for us all. Just ask Darth Cheney. Seriously, thanks for the great comments, Bobby. a Congressional Budget Office report would costs less than $1 dollar per American over the period 2008-2012 to honor World War II Filipino soldiers who fought and died side by side with Americans to preserve Liberty and Freedom in a real war.The problem is it isn't being paid by every American. Due to the pay as you go rules the democrats set up, they either have to raise taxes or make cuts elsewhere for the new benefits they proposed. Well, the people who will be funding these new benefits are disabled veterans in the 60-90% range who could lose in excess of $2,000 a month. If they really cared about veterans, why not pay for it out of their own pockets by an across the boa... Your math doesn't add up somewhere. Please link a site where you are getting your supposed facts. There are about 300 million people in the U.S. so funding HR 760 is going to cost $300 million roughly. Meanwhile Democrats have added $3.7 Billion to the Veterans Funding Bill. Anyway you look at it Veterans are receiving more money from the Democrats than they are from Bush. I noticed how you didn't even touch the appropriateness of honoring our promise and commitment to Filipino Veterans who fought shoulder to shoulder with U.S. soldiers. Once again please provide a link to the cut in 60-90% disabled vets benefits data you claim. There is little doubt that too many Iraqi War Veterans are killing themselves I have posted other stories in this regard and for those who care about our Troops our fellow Americans this should be a wake up call and source of concern that these young men are taking their lives in large number.. It is all to typical for these Bush sycophants to change the topic and muddy the waters so as to defer peoples attention from how our government and this ill-Administration is failing The Troops.. These are human beings and some of the statics and others who have served in Iraq as well are pointing out that this is an epidemic our media is ignoring while they have hours of air time for Lin... |
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