Dulios, it makes me nuts when I hear the right-leaning politicians in the states, piss all over universal healthcare, and refer to is as a Socialist plot, the next step towards Communism. I am somewhat disappointed that neither Hillary Clinton, nor the presumptive President-elect, Barack Obama have not supported single-payer healthcare. But at least Obama's plan tries to make healthcare universal on some level. The Republicans will fight this as if their lives depended on it, but this time I think there will be reform. The reason is that big business is admitting they can no longer pay for the employees health insurance costs, and something must be done to relieve them of the responsibility...

Dulios, it makes me nuts when I hear the right-leaning politicians in the states, piss all over universal healthcare, and refer to is as a Socialist plot, the next step towards Communism. I am somewhat disappointed that neither Hillary Clinton, nor the presumptive President-elect, Barack Obama have not supported single-payer healthcare. But at least Obama's plan tries to make healthcare universal on some level. The Republicans will fight this as if their lives depended on it, but this time I think there will be reform. The reason is that big business is admitting they can no longer pay for the employees health insurance costs, and something must be done to relieve them of the responsibility. Naturally, it has nothing to do with the poor or uninsured, but it is a start.

You're preachin' to the choir, brother.

I actually spent my 4 years abroad during Clinton's first term, so I wasn't around for (or even much aware of) Hillary Clinton's attempts to reform the US system. Of course, it was a smack down of epic proportions.

I've wondered if Clinton's moving from the left on health care and gays in the military, and the delivery of such gems as DOMA, might be comparable to Schwarzenegger's moving from the right after he received his own epic smack down by the California voters with the rejection of all of his initiatives early in his first term. Maybe that's what early, first-term smack downs do to an elected leader.

In any case, we've been waiting over ...

You're preachin' to the choir, brother.

I actually spent my 4 years abroad during Clinton's first term, so I wasn't around for (or even much aware of) Hillary Clinton's attempts to reform the US system. Of course, it was a smack down of epic proportions.

I've wondered if Clinton's moving from the left on health care and gays in the military, and the delivery of such gems as DOMA, might be comparable to Schwarzenegger's moving from the right after he received his own epic smack down by the California voters with the rejection of all of his initiatives early in his first term. Maybe that's what early, first-term smack downs do to an elected leader.

In any case, we've been waiting over a decade for someone else to give it a go. If McCain is elected (ouch, that hurt to type), we'll go on waiting.