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7-11-2009 7:37 AM
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7-11-2009 7:38 AM
Antara
“We will change the name to 'Okeke,' which means 'he who was born on market day',” she said.
7-11-2009 7:48 AM
shaor
who cares! call it 'oshaor' if they want I wont take offense!
7-11-2009 8:14 AM
clip-on-tie
ABC News reported Obama’s attempt at humor on Letterman:

Towards the end of his approximately 40-minute appearance, the president talked about how he’s gotten better at bowling and has been practicing in the White House bowling alley.

He bowled a 129, the president said.

“That’s very good, Mr. President,” Leno said sarcastically.

It’s “like the Special Olympics or something,” the president said.
You can’t use monkey in a joke, but you can compare someone’s actions to the Special Olympics.

But you realize, had this monkey been named "Bus...
7-11-2009 8:17 AM
clip-on-tie
The hypocrisy is staggering.

shaor, I agree with you. The PC crowd here in the U.S. turns everything into an "issue." It's a real bummer.
7-11-2009 8:35 AM
Antara
That was on Leno
7-11-2009 11:55 AM
BobbyRutan
Clip-on, why are you filled with so much hate of President Obama? Is it so you can fit in with the conservative crowd on Clipmarks?

Not only was it on Leno. President Obama apologized even before the statement aired on TV.

Here is the statement by the Chairman of the Special Olympics regarding President Obama's apology.

His controversial joke hadn't even aired yet when President Obama got on the phone from Air Force One Thursday night to apologize for comparing his notoriously bad bowling skills to the Special Olympics.
The president's late-night gaffe comes as he faces criticism over AIG.

"He expressed his disappointment and he apologized, I think, in ...
7-11-2009 12:14 PM
willhelm
I would bet there is a black person somewhere named Okeke. The name sounds African in origin. Why is it still not racist?
7-11-2009 12:22 PM
Antara
Exactly what I thought Willhelm, lol
7-11-2009 12:42 PM
michellezm
As an African I take exception to that monkey being named Okeke. It's a German monkey. Call it Heinz, Hans or Kurt.
7-11-2009 12:48 PM
Antara
lolol, here we go!!
7-11-2009 1:01 PM
tidbit2
we should email Obama the clip or twitter it to him
see what he thinks
if everything was pc there would be stagnation and fun and satire would be illegal , making people worse off
7-11-2009 8:03 PM
shaor
Oh for gods sake! tell me truthfully which one of you has NEVER made a joke about something then realised it might be taken the wrong way so you had to 'keep face' and apologize!!! I am getting forgetful sometimes and often refer to myself as an alzeimers in training'!!! I know I spelt it wrong, don't nag!! his gaf was just like mine, "a joke"!!!
7-11-2009 8:37 PM
bignosemousie
I am not African, or a monkey, but yet I feel offended. Help!
7-11-2009 11:27 PM
merrie
I believe the zoo thought it was recognition of a renown
person and in Germany they're not familiar with pejorative racial slurs.

Each year the zoo names all newborn animals beginning with the same letter. “This year they all begin with ‘O,’ and one of the zookeepers chose ‘Obama’ – it was meant to be positive and an honour in light of his visit to Dresden in June,” Collmar said
7-12-2009 1:07 AM
BobbyRutan
Nice of you to conveniently leave out this part of the article. It's no wonder you no longer allow me to correct your clipping.

Indeed, just last week the United Nations’ special rapporteur for racism Githu Muigai said Germany needs to do more to tackle the daily discrimination of ethnic minorities
7-12-2009 1:17 AM
willhelm
You here that, Antara? boobyrutan is here to make sure your clips meet his approval. How fortunate for you. What would you do without a lugnut leftist moderating your clips for political correctness.
7-12-2009 2:07 AM
BobbyRutan
That was my mistake but I will spell it out for the Moron that is willhelm.

Merrie is the one who is hiding behind the "you are not allowed to comment" tool. Just like you Jeffrey. Back to playing your little games coward?

Stings a little when I point out how you try to spin the facts.
7-12-2009 2:44 AM
willhelm
coward? Me? the one using my real name, which you like to broadcast as if unashamed about your internet stalking and threats, while you hide yourself? I'm the coward? How am I a coward? You are pathetic slime mold, boobyrutan. You are wothless pile of dog crap. I could not care less about anything you have to say. I doubt Antara does, though I am speaking only for myself. I also doubt merrie does, though I am speaking only for myself. I doubt even the clipdaddies care about anything that comes across from your slimy, putrid, bodily-waste encrusted keyboard, though I am speaking only for myself. I am certain beyond doubt and communication with others that there is almost full agreement that...
7-12-2009 3:23 AM
BobbyRutan
Yes you are a pathetic little coward Jeffrey?

I got quite a laugh from you and Clip-on-ties little love fest where you were going to start punching liberals in the face when you talk to them.

http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/EBD92406-3EA5-4EE0-B8C3-26E14AAA8069/

What a laugh, a wuss like you who hides behind the "No comment" tool. Watch that punch Jeffrey you might tweak your hangnail.

Obviously you are deranged. You could not care less about anything I have to say? Ha! You flipped out. Look how you have become unglued. You should really check in with your analyst. Afterwards check in with the fourth graders on your block for some new really cool taunts.

Check out who is stalking who on t...
7-12-2009 3:40 AM
willhelm
I flipped out? I never flip out. Your comments only reveal your idiocy and your own temperament. Even your projection is sad and cheap. I could guess the 4 or 5 clippers that appreciate your contributions, but be sure, you are almost unanimously despised. Good thing you are a coward and incognito. Wouldn't want anyone to know the real source of such profound adolescence and obsessive idiocy.
7-12-2009 4:31 AM
Antara
Ahh, good morning clippers.


Funny, Bobby doesn't actually grace my clips with his presence all too much, lol....I think its your attention he is trying to get Will
7-12-2009 5:51 AM
michellezm
Morning Antara. Sit back, crack open a beer and watch the Clipmark heavyweights in action. In my opinion, rounds 1 and 2 go to Wilhelm. Seems they're taking a breather before the 3rd, and I'm expecting nothing less than a knock out win for Wilhelm in the 4th round.
7-12-2009 8:36 AM
Antara
hehe, clipmarks is anything but boring
7-12-2009 10:12 AM
tidbit2
storm in a teacup!
7-12-2009 10:24 AM
thisnamecantbetaken
Political correctness gone overboard.

Btw, when are people gonna rise up and demand an end to blonde jokes? I get TRULY offended. Not.
7-12-2009 10:26 AM
thisnamecantbetaken
It's a German monkey. Call it Heinz, Hans or Kurt
It has to start with an "O". How about Otto?
7-12-2009 10:37 AM
carrerinyes
Osama....
7-12-2009 10:49 AM
thisnamecantbetaken
Presidents and monkeys... hmm, this clip kinda reminds me of someone else. . .
which one of you has NEVER made a joke about something then realised it might be taken the wrong way
All in good fun, people. .
7-12-2009 12:40 PM
shaor
Yes that was me thisnamecantbetaken and it is true. we all make jokes and sometimes it is not so funny as we think at the time, but it WAS a joke and no offense meant. I think those of you on willhelms case, should just realise what a good clipper he is! I enjoy his clips and learn a lot from them. I use a silly name on here (shaor) sure but my real name is on profile for all to see. (Silvana) Lets enjoy clipmarks without all the nasty back biting please. It's all good fun! God bless you all!
7-12-2009 7:43 PM
willhelm
Thanks for your kindness, shoar. I appreciate that.
I just want to be clear about something. I do not begrudge nor do I judge anyone who wants to maintain their privacy and not reveal their true identity. I just find it despicable that people like boobyrutan will remain anonymous, continuously research and post unrevealed information about other clippers.... --(including home addresses, perhaps even badger them at work with prank calls - I'm not accusing you boobyrutan, I'm just suspicious, given your propensity for "research" about the private lives of fellow clippers.), troll people's clips, make no worthwhile contribution to clipmarks whatsoever-- ....and then have the gall to call another clipper a coward.
7-12-2009 8:38 PM
shaor
yes I understood all that willhelm, np. I didn't like his comments either, it got my back up!
7-13-2009 7:30 AM
Antara
Osama....
LOL!!!
7-13-2009 8:23 AM
BobbyRutan
jeffrey, your a lying sack o' .......

No one has posted your home address. At least I haven't. All the info I mentioned in one clip about you, except for the fact that you were a republican candidate in an election where you finished last, was gleaned from your own comments on clipmarks over a course of clips you commented on, many of them my own clips.

If you remember I was the person who provided you the tips for retaining anonymity especially if your goal is to piss in everyone's cherrios. I have worked in IT security and the way you behave and the information you reveal could set you up. From an online security perspective you were making some very foolish choices. I have more than eno...
7-13-2009 10:15 AM
tidbit2
I think we might need a forum or something to iron out problems with this community , if people are finding things difficult
this kind of thing is very hard to follow
maybe if we had moderators like other discussion forums
I don't know about these online networks/ online communities
theres a lot of good friendly interaction but the mudslinging kinds of spoils the fun
I guess people take some if this stuff quite seriously
heres a forum I think is well managed and seems to work well http://www.boards.ie
I also think we should have interest groups on this network like most other online communities
might help order things a bit better
like if this clip could be categorised under fun or humour

7-13-2009 10:35 AM
NonStatQuo
A lot of people caricatured Geo. Baby Bush as a monkey.

I thought that was appropriate.

He made a buffoon of himself and our country.

Anyone who is intelligent, liberal or conservative... I take that back, anyone who is illiterate or intelligent for that matter, KNOWS how to make a racist slur when they feel the need to unleash one.

When you want to insult a dark skinned person, bring out the monkeys and bananas. it is not rocket science.

In a less cynical moment, I might believe there was an oversight.

But surely, both sides of this row should really come to grips with why people hide behind attacks. They have little real ammunition to use and turn to name calling to inflame others t...
7-13-2009 10:47 AM
michellezm
to inflame others to physical violence.
What a silly statement. Who is inflaming who to 'physical' violence?
7-13-2009 1:33 PM
BobbyRutan
In regards to questions of whether Okeke was an appropriate name no it isn't, nor does the group pushing for the change from Obama believe so. This clip was made before the organization had a chance to respond to the name change.

http://www.thelocal.de/national/20090713-20571.html

When pressed on the issue, the zoo renamed the animal “Okeke” last Friday. But Munich-based ISD director Tahir Della told The Local on Monday that the new name was also an insensitive mistake.
The Local: What’s wrong with the name Okeke?

Della: It happens to be the shared by a Nigerian football player for Chemnitz ...
7-13-2009 1:49 PM
Antara
In regards to questions of whether Okeke was an appropriate name no it
isn't, nor does the group pushing for the change from Obama believe so.
oh good grief.....the PC machine marches on.

I don't think this is going to win them any converts, but people can decide for themselves.
7-13-2009 7:12 PM
BobbyRutan
I guess you're right Antara. People should be able to mock Africans by making monkey gestures and throwing bananas at them. Come on black people get over it.

However my link does point out that Merrie's statement was more than a little bit ridiculous. It's obvious Germans are fully aware of denigrating racial slurs.
7-13-2009 7:36 PM
Antara
They weren't making fun of Black people.
They named the cute little monkey in honor of Obama (unlike the intended insult when Bush was made a monkey of).

And (as I suspect some might be feeling on this clip right now)....they were probably feeling good about it until some self righteous Lord with his underwear too tight appeared to point out how racist and mean they all were!!!

7-13-2009 10:20 PM
BobbyRutan
Antara please,

Merrie said that quote:

"in Germany they're not familiar with pejorative racial slurs"
When you read the article I linked, that shows that German soccer fans mock African soccer players by making monkey gestures and throwing bananas at them, you know full well that they are familiar with racial slurs and stereotyping.

Whether they felt it was in honor or not, the point is that it was a bad decision that propagates ethnic stereotyping. Okeke was no better a name to choose. Many of the clippers were right when they said name the mandrill Otto.

Saying that pundits and jokesters who made fun of George W. Bush by picturing his gestures next to a chimpanzees ges...
7-14-2009 12:18 AM
Antara
Bobby, you can try and turn an innocent act into something heinous all you like. I still think this is an overblown case of PC madness.
They did it to honor Obama, not to insult---...and maybe he would have liked it!!! Sadly, he will never have the chance now to enjoy little O's tribute.....*cry*

As for telling me my comparisons are off, didn't you just accost me with your palin-hate comparison over on another clip while I commenting on another topic entirely, LOL.
pleassssssse.
7-14-2009 1:20 AM
BobbyRutan
I don't think I was trying to turn it into a heinous act.

I was pointing out Merrie's rather ridiculous comment given known actions of German citizens.

The original article doesn't accuse malice. It only states racial insensitivity which is far less than heinous. Nor was the naming of the mandrill "Okeke" heinous, but as as I said, it was a poor decision.

I don't hate Palin.

She's just not suited to be president of the United States in my opinion. There are many more republican women I would vote for before I would vote for Sarah Palin. However, the would be moderate Republicans.

Adios, I'm done, unless of course some delusional person reappears making paranoid accusations.

7-14-2009 7:45 AM
Antara
Bobby, I am glad you can adjust the tone of your talk when it serves your purposes. The calm and reasoned approach looks much better on you.



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