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5-16-2007 11:27 AM779 views
Fracture says:
Why blind faith is dangerous. Beware any institution that holds it in high esteem.
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5-16-2007 11:55 AM
n2sooners
It is disgusting when a person in authority uses that position to gain sexual favors from a subordinate.
5-16-2007 12:07 PM
cementedminds
Quite right Sooners.
5-16-2007 2:39 PM
BartendingBear
Even more disgusting is that such an individual has been vested with such authority. Still MORE disgusting is that there is someone in place to vest that authority. Consequently, we logically arrive at the wisdom brought to us by the 1960s: QUESTION AUTHORITY.

Oh, wait. We can't do that, for if we do we might see that the Bible has no dust jacket, so therefore we cannot question authority.

From this, we have learned that it is acceptable for preachers to spank and use for sexual gratification the followers their vesture assures them.
5-17-2007 3:29 AM
n2sooners
Even more disgusting is that such an individual has been vested with such authority. Still MORE disgusting is that there is someone in place to vest that authority.
It is the followers themselves that give a person authority. And sadly, even when that authority is abused for something like gaining sexual favors from a subordinate there are some followers who will try to justify those actions.
5-17-2007 11:36 AM
Fracture
n2sooners said:

It is the followers themselves that give a person authority.
You've completely missed the point of the article.

It is the entire infrastructure that demands and encourages this. The foundation of religion is faith, and faith is believing in something despite the evidence.

Children used to be told to always obey adults until people realized that put them at risk. Now parents wisely teach children to trust their instincts and run screaming from adults that cause them concern.

Organized Religion is one of the last remaining places where blind faith is considered a positive. That is and always will be dangerous.
5-17-2007 12:14 PM
BartendingBear
Very well put, Fracture. Sadly, they always miss the point.
5-17-2007 12:30 PM
Fracture
BartendingBear said:

Sadly, they always miss the point.
They have no choice. To get the point is to show lack of faith, and without faith their religion is nothing. The ultimate catch-22.
5-17-2007 2:21 PM
n2sooners
Organized Religion is one of the last remaining places where blind faith is considered a positive. That is and always will be dangerous.
I think maybe you are blind to seeing all the blind faith out there. How about the blind faith many have in politics? Or the blind faith it seems millions have in Al Gore even though scientist after scientist disputes his alarmism. There is blind faith everywhere, but you only see it in religion because you are blind to all the rest of it.

This is about a leader who was given that position of power by the people he leads. He didn't use an army to take it by force, it was given to him. And charismatic leaders are often given that kind of pow...
5-17-2007 2:26 PM
TheCatWhisperer
Or the blind faith it seems millions have in Al Gore even though scientist after scientist disputes his alarmism.
Nice off-topic anti-gore bash
5-17-2007 2:33 PM
BartendingBear
"Topic? We don't need no stinkin' topic to bash liberals."
5-17-2007 2:40 PM
n2sooners
Don't leave out my very subtle Clinton bashing.
5-17-2007 2:57 PM
Fracture
Wow. That's some impressive topic dodging, n2. Do you work for Fox?
5-17-2007 3:06 PM
n2sooners
Actually, I think I am right on topic. A man in power abuses that power to gain an advantage on a subordinate. And I believe I have made it clear that I am against it.
5-17-2007 3:49 PM
Fracture
Way to take a stand. Anyone with an ounce of sanity is on your side with regard to that sub-text.

However, the topic at hand is the institutions that carefully architect conditions that ensure the outrageous power they wield can never be questioned.

They condition their sheep, I mean flock, so well that even as the abuse is underway their own misgivings cannot break their programming, I mean "faith".
5-17-2007 4:55 PM
n2sooners
Wow, you just described the global warming alarmism movement.
5-17-2007 5:31 PM
Fracture
N2, you certainly dodge a point with skills usually witnessed among Olympic fencers.

Skewered by your rapier-like wit, I leave now for rational discussions elsewhere... wondering what global warming has to do with yet another in a long and growing line of Church abuses.
5-17-2007 5:35 PM
n2sooners
Ahhh, so you finally admit it. It isn't the abuse that bothers you, it is the church.
5-19-2007 2:15 PM
ouyangwulong
Perhaps we need to consider that both of these sides may be right, since everyone here is anti-rape.

On the one hand, the power of any authority, religious or otherwise, is derived from the acknowledgment of the people. The ultimate check against any dogma (religious or otherwise) is the ability of the people to reject it. (Presuming we have the free will and cognitive powers to do so, which I think most of us do.) Thus, the desire that many have to follow blindly is certainly part of the core problem.

On the other hand, we can't deny that those in power don't cultivate it. Once granted authority, few leaders encourage their followers to question it. Instead they chose to reinforce it, and...
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