Their ridiculous argument is twofold.

1) confusing living organisms with human life, ergo dying skin sells, then, must be killing human life too. Absurd.

2) "no theological argument" against abortion? "Thou shalt not kill" is the basis of it, which forbids all unlawful killing of human life, before or after birth. (Yes, many "christians" are hypocrites in failing to apply the same criteria toward unjust wars unrelated to real self-defense, like Iraq where 655,000 Iraqi souls have been murdered, who never waged an attack upon America, but were only invaded. But hypocrisy never negates the truth).

Natural law, as well as biblical, also advocates the preserving all of life. Even ani...

Their ridiculous argument is twofold.

1) confusing living organisms with human life, ergo dying skin sells, then, must be killing human life too. Absurd.

2) "no theological argument" against abortion? "Thou shalt not kill" is the basis of it, which forbids all unlawful killing of human life, before or after birth. (Yes, many "christians" are hypocrites in failing to apply the same criteria toward unjust wars unrelated to real self-defense, like Iraq where 655,000 Iraqi souls have been murdered, who never waged an attack upon America, but were only invaded. But hypocrisy never negates the truth).

Natural law, as well as biblical, also advocates the preserving all of life. Even animals defend their fertile eggs from predators, defending those eggs with their own lives if necessary. Ron Paul makes plain the case that the unborn child "has rights", which is reflected in modern law when a pregnant woman is harmed and her unborn child is miscarried due to the violence of others.

In terms of human biology, the clipped article is poor. Talking about "the semen before it fertilizes" and "the ovum before it is fertilized" in the context of abortion is a red herring. And "all the millions of embryos that fail to be embedded" are admittedly not yet human persons, but at the latest after being successfully implanted in the uterus, developing to human persons is immanent in them.

Poorness marks the clipped article also in regard to the knowledge of religions and theologies.
Though being neither an Evangelical nor a Roman Catholic Christian, from my religious and ethical point of view (and according to my understanding of rights) it is certain that

esteeming unborn h...

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In terms of human biology, the clipped article is poor. Talking about "the semen before it fertilizes" and "the ovum before it is fertilized" in the context of abortion is a red herring. And "all the millions of embryos that fail to be embedded" are admittedly not yet human persons, but at the latest after being successfully implanted in the uterus, developing to human persons is immanent in them.

Poorness marks the clipped article also in regard to the knowledge of religions and theologies.
Though being neither an Evangelical nor a Roman Catholic Christian, from my religious and ethical point of view (and according to my understanding of rights) it is certain that

esteeming unborn human beings (as well as born) and and caring for them is indeed also a "religious issue" - it correlates with the respect for the creator of life, and

(certainly!) there is a "theological basis" for expounding the problems of abortion, because ceasing unborn human life raises the question what human life, beyond species-preserving, economical and parents-gladdening aspects, is meant for;

terminating the development of an unborn means ceasing the potentiality of a person; this has to be considered as a grave ethical problem;

the unborn has a right to be protected, at best with the mother-to-be, and at worst, if necessary, against her. (Für deutschsprachige Leser: siehe BVerfG, Urteil vom 27. 10. 1998 - 1 BvR 2306/ 96)

kkcapricorn said:

So out of this great "respect" for human life, teens will continue to conceal pregnancies, and dispose of the "children" in the trash.
Or -- these children will be raised in unfit homes and be breaking into our homes, mugging us on the streets, or randomly killing us as part of a "gang ritual"

Aha, that is your attitude? A conglomerate of angst and hatred towards children and juveniles?
Would you like the society to apply a sort of social "euthanasia" or social selection to the unborn children of underprivileged people??
I wonder what is graver unsocial: the mindset your statement shows up, or those neglected, depraved youngsters you are afraid of.
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kkcapricorn said:

So out of this great "respect" for human life, teens will continue to conceal pregnancies, and dispose of the "children" in the trash.
Or -- these children will be raised in unfit homes and be breaking into our homes, mugging us on the streets, or randomly killing us as part of a "gang ritual"

Aha, that is your attitude? A conglomerate of angst and hatred towards children and juveniles?
Would you like the society to apply a sort of social "euthanasia" or social selection to the unborn children of underprivileged people??
I wonder what is graver unsocial: the mindset your statement shows up, or those neglected, depraved youngsters you are afraid of.
Have you ever thought of ways how to reform the corrupted society you are apparently living in so that
a) teenagers would know at last how to prevent unwanted conception/impregnation?
b) teenagers, in case of wanted or unwanted pregnancy, would not have to "dispose the 'children' in the trash" (note: the quotation marks you were not ashamed to set around the word children make me chunder)?
c) children would not be raised in unfit homes?
d) young people would not become criminal?
You never have thought of that, right? And that is wrong with you.

I am not religious, but believe in a womans right to choose. I would have a hard time having an abortion if I could even have a baby, (I'm a guy), but due to my personal values I would struggle with that decision.

I do think there should be some point where you can't. I don't believe an 8 month impregnated girl should have an abortion unless it threatens her life.

I do not think banning abortions is the solution. In the U.S. people did go get illegal and often dangerous abortions or did them themselves. Again, its a moral issue. Its a a religious issue for those whose moral compass is directed by religion. Laws should never be initiated by religious values and organizations. They should ...

I am not religious, but believe in a womans right to choose. I would have a hard time having an abortion if I could even have a baby, (I'm a guy), but due to my personal values I would struggle with that decision.

I do think there should be some point where you can't. I don't believe an 8 month impregnated girl should have an abortion unless it threatens her life.

I do not think banning abortions is the solution. In the U.S. people did go get illegal and often dangerous abortions or did them themselves. Again, its a moral issue. Its a a religious issue for those whose moral compass is directed by religion. Laws should never be initiated by religious values and organizations. They should be made by the people as a diverse whole. If we really had a consensus democracy, it would.
When I as a kid, you would not dare talk or go to Planned Parent Hood because we were embarrassed. Now young adults consider this ok, even cool to talk about and go to get protection, counseling and yes, sometimes an abortion. I was so proud when my Niece and her Boyfriend at 18 went there before they even had sex. They were counseled, given options as well as abstinence and contraception choices. This then made her comfortable to talk to other adults. She made better choices then I did at that age.

In the early 1950's, only married couples could go get protection. We have come a long way and it is the religious that keep this battle on-going in the USA. The religious right. When they are not stuck in scandals about gay sex and meth, battle continuously and relentlessly about making abortion illegal. Then there are the fanatics like the Army of God, who used to have a hit list of doctors and activists on line. Some were my friends and very good people. They still exist.